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  • Simon Daykin
    Ray, svchost runs all sorts of things. You can get a list of the process it is running by opening a command prompt a typing... tasklist /SVC Simon ... From:
    Message 1 of 44 , Aug 31, 2008
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      Ray,

      svchost runs all sorts of things.
      You can get a list of the process it is running by opening a command prompt
      a typing...
      tasklist /SVC

      Simon

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Ray Livingston" <jagboy1964@...>
      To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:36 AM
      Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Pulse Monitor Tool


      > Gerry,
      >
      > NO, I do not! That's why I'm surprised to see all those svchost
      > services. I have no network device, Windows update turned off,
      > Firewall turned off, etc.
      >
      > Regards,
      > Ray L.
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, "Ger" <CNCWoodworker@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> You have Windows Update turned on??
      >>
      >> Gerry
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: "Ray Livingston" <jagboy1964@...>
      >> To: <mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com>
      >> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:03 PM
      >> Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Pulse Monitor Tool
      >>
      >>
      >> > Art,
      >> >
      >> > I'll try that next time it happens. But why would re-booting
      >> > make any difference? This seems to happen on the first boot of
      > the
      >> > day. Of course, once it works, I don't reboot again...
      >> > BTW - I've got my network interface disabled, and did all the
      >> > things in the FAQ on optimizing XP for Mach3, but I notice there's
      >> > still about 5 or 6 svchost.exe processes running. Is there a way
      > to
      >> > make those go away? I've seen svchost.exe, in conjunction with
      > the !
      >> > @#$%^&*( Windows Update really screwup systems on bootup.
      >> >
      >> > Regards,
      >> > Ray L.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > --- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, art2 <fenerty@> wrote:
      >> >>
      >> >> Ray:
      >> >>
      >> >> Seen many 3.5 volt systems do that..l Run the drivertest.exe
      > next
      >> > time it occurs. ( End MAch3 first) , does the drivertest show a
      > weird
      >> > waveform? Ive seen an amazing number of system running 3.5 volts
      > form
      >> > the port that worked great for days, then terrible, then good. Not
      >> > saying thats it, but its hard to say for sure. Run the driver
      > test,
      >> > see if it looks weird, then run MAch3 again.. problem still there?
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >> Thanks,
      >> >> Art
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> >> From: Ray Livingston
      >> >> To: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
      >> >> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:32 PM
      >> >> Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Pulse Monitor Tool
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >> Happened again today. Re-starting Mach did not help. Had to re-
      >> > boot
      >> >> the PC. WTF is going on there?? The pulse train to the servo
      >> >> drivers was obviously WAY erratic, as the Geckos were faulting.
      >> > Re-
      >> >> booted the PC, and it all worked perfectly all afternoon.
      >> >>
      >> >> Regards,
      >> >> Ray L.
      >> >>
      >> >> --- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Livingston"
      >> >> <jagboy1964@> wrote:
      >> >> >
      >> >> > I have the same problem with mine. When I power up the
      > system,
      >> > I
      >> >> > always do a few long, fast moves, and listen for the clunks.
      > If
      >> >> they
      >> >> > happen, then I re-boot, which pretty much always fixes it. I
      >> > have
      >> >> a
      >> >> > completely stripped down XP, with *nothing* running that
      >> > doesn't
      >> >> need
      >> >> > to be. I'm looking forward to getting a SmoothStepper just to
      >> > rid
      >> >> > myself of all the problems I've had due to PC wierdities. I
      >> > would
      >> >> > sure like to see Mach3 running under Linux....
      >> >> >
      >> >> > Regards,
      >> >> > Ray L.
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> > --- In mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com, art2 <fenerty@> wrote:
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > >>On my systems (all 3 of them) I get an intermittent
      > problem
      >> >> which
      >> >> > I think
      >> >> > > has something to do with the pulse.
      >> >> > > When the problem occurs the syptoms are: No torque on the
      >> > motors,
      >> >> > they stall
      >> >> > > easily and an intermittent "thunk" approximately every
      >> > rotation
      >> >> of
      >> >> > the
      >> >> > > leadscrew.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Yup, sounds like pulse timing could be the issue.. When it
      >> >> > happens on 3 computers, it usually means ( about 60% of the
      >> > time)
      >> >> > that the user has a common practice of loading some utility
      > or
      >> >> virus
      >> >> > scanner or program in common to all three. If not, it becomes
      >> >> > suspiciously like a machine or power supply issue, since the
      >> > common
      >> >> > factor then becomes the machine itself. ( unless all three
      >> >> computers
      >> >> > are driving different machines.) Most bugs are found through
      >> >> > commonallity, indeed in almost all bug reports or test
      > versions
      >> > I
      >> >> > release I do so to seek a common relationship between all the
      >> >> > reports..
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > So if 3 computers do something, look for things they have
      > in
      >> >> > common, firstly being the machine being driven, then
      >> > motherboard
      >> >> type
      >> >> > of added hardware (port cards etc..), then software loaded,
      >> > then
      >> >> > Mach3 itself ( settings etc..).
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Thanks,
      >> >> > > Art
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
      >> >> > > From: Simon Daykin
      >> >> > > To: mach1mach2cnc@yahoogroups.com
      >> >> > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:48 AM
      >> >> > > Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Pulse Monitor Tool
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Art / Brian,
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Throughout the current threading problems, it seems to me
      >> > that
      >> >> > Arts
      >> >> > > temporary pulse monitor plugin is very usefull.
      >> >> > > I would like to suggest, if it is possible, that you
      > produce
      >> > a
      >> >> > stand-alone
      >> >> > > program which monitors the pulse timing which can be run
      >> >> > hopefully outside
      >> >> > > of Mach3 (i.e. not a plugin) and draws the graphs of pulse
      >> >> timing
      >> >> > and
      >> >> > > possibly pulse width etc.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > On my systems (all 3 of them) I get an intermittent problem
      >> >> which
      >> >> > I think
      >> >> > > has something to do with the pulse.
      >> >> > > When the problem occurs the syptoms are: No torque on the
      >> >> motors,
      >> >> > they stall
      >> >> > > easily and an intermittent "thunk" approximately every
      >> > rotation
      >> >> > of the
      >> >> > > leadscrew.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > I even thought at one point that I had a broken ball in one
      >> > of
      >> >> my
      >> >> > ballscrews
      >> >> > > the thunk is that bad. I stripped the axis down but could
      > not
      >> >> > find anything
      >> >> > > wrong. Needless to say it was fine again when I put it back
      >> >> > together!
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > The problem is cured by rebooting, sometimes just Mach3,
      >> >> > sometimes it takes
      >> >> > > a complete computer reboot. I have been unable to ascertain
      >> > any
      >> >> > common
      >> >> > > reason for it happening, sometimes it happens on first
      >> > bootup,
      >> >> > sometimes
      >> >> > > hours after the computer has been running, sometimes the
      >> >> computer
      >> >> > can run
      >> >> > > all day without it happening.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Thanks
      >> >> > > Simon
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
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    • Wayne Weedon
      ... Maybe not your problem. But I had a video card failure on my VMC fairly recently. I changed it for another one I had on the shelf, it was hopeless.
      Message 44 of 44 , Sep 7, 2008
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        Simon Daykin wrote:

        > It's not the Mach3 driver I want to see. I wanted to see which ISR is
        > causing the massive jump in interrupt time when the machine goes clunky.
        > Then I would know which bit of harware or driver is causing the problem.

        Maybe not your problem. But I had a video card failure on my VMC
        fairly recently. I changed it for another one I had on the shelf, it
        was hopeless. Original was AGP I put in a PCI card and the replacement
        worked BUT even jogging would suffer a regular bump in the pulse train.

        Wayne.....

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