Re: [macgregor19sailboats] Re: 25hp averaging 11 to 12 mph
Yes, those new two-strokes look great, but I'll be over $5000 if I buy even a 40hp Tohatsu or Nissan. My boat came with a 25HP Honda 4-stroke. Turns out it has three carborators and all were gummed up. I paid $1000 to service it, and whatever else I buy is on credit. I'm trying to minimize my red ink! I can pick up a used two stroke for about half the price of a new motor.
You've probably looked into this already, but just in case you
haven't. I little while ago I read an article in "Boating" magazine
that was comparing the newer 2 stroke outboards with the 4 stroke
ones, and it made the new 2 strokes sound pretty good. They have
changed the design so that they meet the newer and more restrictive
environmental regulations, they are lighter than the 4 stroke motors,
some them get almost as much mileage, and they are quieter than the
older 2 strokes.
If I was in the market right now for a outboard, I would look into
some of these new 2 stroke designs. They are supposedly quite an
improvement over the older 2 stroke motors in performance, mileage,
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "medrich310" <zen@z...>
> I finally got my 93 m19 in the ocean at San Diego. Around the bay with
> my wife and two teenagers it averaged 9 to 10 mph (GPS said). The next
> day I went by myself to Pukey Point at the nearest Coronado Island, and
> it averaged between 11 to 12 mph. I didn't even put the boom on
> because I wanted to feel its motoring abilities and not sail on that
> trip. I kept the weight light on the boat. The 25hp Honda 4 stroke
> weighs about 150lbs. I'm not sure the ballast would fully empty though.
> prop pitch = 11
> I'm tempted to sell the 25 HP and get a 2 stroke 40 hp tohatsu, but
> it's not worth it unless I can get 20mph or more out of it. Is this
> Also, you folks with EZY-GLIDE or other steering, have you tried
> running with the rudders up and steering with just the motor? Is this
> safe or unstable?
> Brian Kotrich
> Southern California
- My engine has a straight rod and different mounting holes for adjustment.
You pull the rod out, pick the lowest holes and put the rod thru them. Not
> The trim attachments on the motor I just bought presently have a curve
> that would push the rear end up, but if reversed left one to right and
> right one to left, would do the opposite, or push the rear end down.
> Are yours the same kind of thing? (Just wondering on a Sunday morning
> before I've finished my first cup of coffee.)
> fischer@... wrote:
>> No my boat seems to ride nose high. I'd like to get it down some and the
>> trim thing would probably be right.
>> > The motor I just bought has some aftermarket trim things bolted on
>> > above the trim tab and propeller - they do look like a dolphin's tail.
>> > The dealer said they were to push the rear end of the boat up when
>> > too much weight at the rear (the motor was on some guys inflatible
>> > tender). He said I might want to take them off. I mention this
>> > weren't you the one having trouble with the front end being almost
>> > down (and thus the rear end up). Perhaps they are contributing to
>> > low top speed. Too bad you don't know your RPM's.
>> > Brian
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: bronwengrandaughter
>> > To: email@example.com
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:50 PM
>> > Subject: [macgregor19sailboats] Re: 25hp averaging 11 to 12 mph
>> > Just got back from an overnighter on Norris lake and the GPS was a
>> > steady 14.7mph. Honda 35hp 4 stroke w/ dolfin things.
>> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "medrich310" <zen@z...>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Hi Randy,
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the welcome. I went back to look, about Chris's motor
>> > > extension, and his exact words recently were "to free up cockpit
>> > > space, to induce more trim and to have full steering capabilities
>> > of
>> > > the motor", which sound like pretty good reasons to me. I'm
>> > > surprised the Suzuki 40hp 4-strokes are too big. I was looking at
>> > a
>> > > Suzuki 55hp 2-stroke the guy thought was a 2000, but the serial
>> > > number shows it to be a 1995. There's a Mercury Mariner 50hp two
>> > > stroke, 1995, not far away from me for $1500, but the dealer has
>> > > oral commitment to sell it to another guy, but if he doesn't
>> > > through tomorrow I plan to buy it myself. It has all the controls
>> > > and cables they said. About props, I bought three different
>> > > props for the Honda 25 four stroke that I'm now going to sell and
>> > > I'll try whatever comes on the motor I buy first. However with a
>> > > more powerful motor I should be ok with a somewhat higher pitch
>> > prop
>> > > because the Mac 19 won't be such a heavy load for it.
>> > >
>> > > Chris mentioned the 70hp Tohatsu currently on Ebay. I emailed the
>> > > guy and he called me back. Tohatsu has a very user friendly
>> > > website, one thing they have is a chart for how many gallons of
>> > > their various motors use at WOT for one hour. The 70hp Tohatsu on
>> > > Ebay would suck up 7.7 gallons of gas in one hour at full
>> > > throttle. http://www.tohatsu.com/tech_info/fuel_consumpt.html
>> > > still think 50 or 55hp would be the best, at least for me, and
>> > > since I plan ocean sailing, and motoring (not to mention want
>> > > maintenance) I want a two stroke.
>> > >
>> > > I'll let you folks know.
>> > >
>> > > Brian Kotrich
>> > > Riverside County
>> > > Southern California
>> > > 105 degrees again today
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In email@example.com, astro27go@a... wrote:
>> > > > BRIAN , Welcome to our fleet.
>> > > > I was the one who said that Chris put his Honda 4 stoke on
>> > a
>> > > 15''
>> > > > extention because it did not fit. Chris replied that it fit just
>> > > fine on the 19 and
>> > > > he used the ext. for a different reason. Many 19s seem to have
>> > > Honda 40 OBs
>> > > > so fit doesn't seem a problem. I Know 1st hand 2000 Suzuki 40 4
>> > > strokes don't
>> > > > fit. 55hp OMC sounds good but tiller control would less in the
>> > > way. Boat is
>> > > > rated 40 hp but who would know unless there was a mishap and
>> > > insurance Co. or
>> > > > lawyers got involved. prop pitch is critical I use 10" on my
>> > > Merc Seapro
>> > > > 40 (165 lbs) and get 23 mph on GPS with 2 aboard so go for a
>> > > Power prop to get
>> > > > rpms up to max. keep us informed Thanks
>> > > >
>> > > Capt. Randy
>> > > > SV Windfall
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