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4022RE: [LXX] RE: greek - hebrew. dictionary of the lxx parallels

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  • andrew
    Mar 26, 2014
      Dear List,

      Dumb me!  Forget the bit about pe (פ)!  Herodian kof (כ) and pe are similar.  Kof has an upper left projection that hooks up, nun has no upper left projection, and pe has a straight line projecting down.  A right vertical spine and a left jutting horizontal base characterizes all three.  You’ve got to forgive the Dead Sea people for ignoring Paul – he was still in his mother’s womb when the Romans wiped them out!  “Paul” is the way the Septuagint dealt with the strange Hebrew word עֻפְּלָה (‘uppela or ‘oppela).  They transcribed it with οπαλα, which degenerated into Παῦλος “Paul.” Hope Bob (Kraft) doesn’t kill me for dating the Septuagint Habakkuk to the Christian era!  In any case here’s what his 8HevXIIgr has at Column XVII, lines 29-30:

      [ιση.]  4ιδ[ου] σκοτια ουκ ευθεια ψυχη αυτου [εν]

      [αυτω και δι]καιος εν πιστει αυτου ζησετ[αι.]

      “Look!  He’s blind (lit. darkness), his soul isn’t

      right with him!  And the just will live by faith.”

      If that isn’t preconversion Paul, I don’t know what is.  In any case (don’t tell, Bob, who lives off royalties from the Oxford edition, DJD VIII) the whole scroll is accessible at http://www.thewaytoyahuweh.com/tag/nahal-hever.  If somebody knows how to cut and paste from that tell me.  What you see above was typed in from a printout of the .pdf. I seem to lack the Greek font, which isn't listed.

      Andrew Fincke

      From: finckea@...
      To: LXX@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:01:06 -0400
      Subject: RE: [LXX] RE: greek - hebrew. dictionary of the lxx parallels

      Pesher Habakkuk from the Dead Sea (1QpHab VII, 14) thinks עֻפְּלָה is a scribal mistake for יכפלו, which means something like “double, do two times.”  The error occurred – so this view – when the ע split into ayin/vav (ו) for the right vertical and pe (פ) for the left vertical.  Pe in Herodian script is not so fat as today’s פ and differs from nun (נ) only through the downward slant of the upper left projection.  From a theological standpoint one would say that the Qumran people subsitituted יכ, i.e. J(esus) C(hrist) for the ע of Παῦλος (Paul) of the masoretic Hab. 2:4.  Just as Acts served as addendum to the gospels, so Paul “doubled” the gospels Chief Character.  The Septuagint continuously endeavored to exploit its broad Biblical perspective in enforcing New Testament details on the old.

      Andrew Fincke


      From: philipengmann@...
      To: LXX@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:58:09 -0700
      Subject: Re: [LXX] RE: greek - hebrew. dictionary of the lxx parallels

      Dear Listees,

      in Habakkuk 2:4 the reflexive verb, ὑποστείληται, is used. Could not an active verb have sufficed?

      Thank you,

      Philip Engmann

      On Friday, January 31, 2014 7:58 PM, Jon Westcot <westcot@...> wrote:
      I might be on that list of buyers.

      To: LXX@yahoogroups.com
      From: nebarry@...
      Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 07:03:41 -0500
      Subject: Re: [LXX] RE: greek - hebrew. dictionary of the lxx parallels

      I think having a morphologically tagged Peshitta text would be excellent. I for one am going to send a note to that effect to Logos, and I suggest any other Logos users on this list do as well. If they think they can sell a few copies, they will do it...

      N.E. Barry Hofstetter
      Sent from my iPad
      Personal opinions expressed in this email do not reflect any institution with which I may be affiliated

      On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:34 PM, biblicaltheology@... wrote:


      Greetings Andrew,
      You appear to be asking if the Logos Peshitta text is morphologically tagged.  I checked their web site and found that it is not.  They do include a limited apparatus and offer two Syriac scripts:  Serto and Estrangela.
      The Logos LXX is tagged, thus the cursor hovering data as noted below.
      BibleWorks includes a non-tagged text as well.
      Accordance includes a grammatically tagged text as contained in Peshitta manuscript 7a1 (Milan, Ambrosian Library).
      I hope this helps.

      From: andrew finckea@...
      Dear James,
      Does it work that simply for the Peshitta Old Testament?  I was so excited to hear that Logos finally bought into the Leiden Peshitta Institute's Online Old Testament that I called Seattle and bought a trial version.  When I coldn't get a Peshitta verse to appear - let alone allow me to work with it -  I returned the software.  Can you get a Peshitta Old Testament verse up on your screen and "simply position my cursor over (a word) and it brings up the Hebrew word?"  If so, tell me how.
      From: jamesjay@...

      > I hate to mention this, but in Logos Bible software, I can simply
      > position my cursor over any vocabulary item in the LXX, and it brings up
      > the Hebrew word...

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