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3949Re: [lxx] more on numbering texts in antiquity

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  • david lynn reedy
    Jan 28, 2013
      My question would be was there and sort of numbering system taht was employed by Jerome or Philo, by the Rabbics of the Exilic period, or back even to Solomon and David?

      From: Robert Kraft <kraft@...>
      To: lxx@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:31 PM
      Subject: Re: [lxx] more on numbering texts in antiquity


      I decided to check for numbered items in the materials I've been
      collecting for a projected updated version of Roberts and Skeat on the
      birth of the codex
      (http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak/courses/735/book/codex-rev1.html), and
      found a couple of possibly relevant items:

      P. Rylands 1 53 (Pack 1106) parchment Homer; 3/4 century ce, quire
      number present

      M-P 2712 [Paraliterary Papyri 0278LDAB 5315 Cribiore 385] Lond BM 37533
      school word lists (8[9] wooden tablets 3rd c; two student hands, both
      sides; ##6-8 blank; "pages" numbered both sides)

      I'm not in a position to check the details right now, but thought it
      might be worth adding to the discussion.

      Bob Kraft, emeritus UPenn

      On 1/27/2013 9:33 PM, Joel Kalvesmaki wrote:
      > Dear Bill (if I may),
      > Your paragraph below esp. intrigued me. Could you give an example of Greek
      > literature's (prose, not poetry, right?) enumeration of book sections? I
      > assume you mean subsections of books, or did you mean just book units? If
      > the former, are these numeration schemes individual or shared? That is, do
      > we find a common numbering scheme of internal parts of a given text from
      > one MS/papyrus to another? Or would the numbering scheme be tailored to
      > each specific MS/papyrus? Any references you might know would be helpful.
      > Best wishes,
      > jk
      > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM, William Yarchin mailto:BYarchin%40apu.edu> wrote:
      >> On the origins of Christian psalms-numbering: We know of eight papyri best
      >> described as school-exercises that have biblical psalms. For example, on
      >> its recto *P.Lond.Lit.* 207 (LDAB 3473) has Psalms 11:7-14:4 and on its
      >> verso Isocrates’ *ad Demonicum* 26-28, albeit from a different yet
      >> contemporary hand. Both recto and verso feature syllable-division dots,
      >> pointing to use in an educational setting. Nomina sacra and contractions
      >> for kurios and theos on the recto suggest a Christian milieu. Could papyri
      >> like this reflect a Christian school context in which scripture (at least
      >> the psalms) was studied along with Greek literature? Inasmuch as the latter
      >> tended to include enumeration of book-sections, perhaps the (exclusively,
      >> originally?) Christian practice of numbering psalms came about in such
      >> settings and fit well in the Christian liturgical context as well.
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