## Re: deformed delta loop

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• Thanks Don and Andrew for your replies.  You have both given me food for thought.  I have recalculated my planning and I now think I will build a regular
Message 1 of 5 , Jul 8, 2013
Thanks Don and Andrew for your replies.  You have both given me food for thought.  I have recalculated my planning and I now think I will build a regular form delta 41 feet long by 18 feet high.  This should reduce my old circumference from 134 feet (41m) to around 95.5 feet (29.1m).  It would be built along the back fence and be feed from the ENE end therefore nulling the backside New England states. (I'm in SE New Brunswick, Canada)  This should give me a better shot at TAs.

Andrew,  I was intregued by the way you calculated the impedance.  What formula did you use.  I would like to recalculate my new design at various frequencies.   I was also planning on rolling my own impedance transformer on a 100mm ferrite rod but from what I've read it is recommended to isolate both windings and not tap a single winding. (perhaps I misunderstood what you were telling me).  I presume the smaller circumference would raise the feedpoint impedance from the 220 ohms you quoted me.

Thanks again gentlemen
Cam
• Carmile, LeBlanc wrote on the 9th July, Andrew, I was intregued by the way you calculated the impedance. What formula did you use. I would like to
Message 2 of 5 , Jul 9, 2013

Carmile, LeBlanc wrote on the 9th July,

"Andrew,  I was intregued by the way you calculated the impedance.  What formula did you use.  I would like to recalculate my new design at various frequencies.   I was also planning on rolling my own impedance transformer on a 100mm ferrite rod but from what I've read it is recommended to isolate both windings and not tap a single winding. (perhaps I misunderstood what you were telling me).  I presume the smaller circumference would raise the feedpoint impedance from the 220 ohms you quoted me."

Carmile, generally speaking, 1m of thin wire has a measured inductance of 1.7uH. The Impedance is 2Pi F x L where 2Pi is 6.28, F MHz and L uH. Hence at 1MHz a 1uH inductor has a reactance of 6.28 Ohms.  I would recommend that the transformer should be constructed using 10 turns turns trifilar  36 SWG (0.2mm) enamelled copper wound an a Fair-Rite twin hole core 2873000302. The antenna side is 2 x 10 turns in series, so you will have a centre tap. The receiver side is the other winding. Note; type 73 ferrite is conductive so you will need use 3mm nylon insulation sleeving in the core. Alternatively you could use Fair-Rite 28430000302 core, this has a much lower AL value ( 2uH per turn based on 10 turns ) but it is non conductive.  If you do end up using a Ferrite rod, then use isolated windings close to each other. Also the ferrite rod needs to housed in screened enclosure. It must be large enough so that the rod is several diameters from the metal work.

A smaller loop circumfrence will reduce the impedance.

Don mentioned the Wellbrook ALA100, this has been replaced by the ALA100LN. It has 8 Fets configured using Gate Source feedback, thus dynamically reducing the Fet Channel resistance and noise figure to a fraction of a dB with low  IMD and high gain.

Kind regards

Andrew

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