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Re: [liturgy-l] Sign of the cross

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  • Lewis Whitaker
    Oh, I must have misread. I guess those folks aren t clergy. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 8 , Mar 30, 2011
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      Oh, I must have misread. I guess those folks aren't clergy.



      On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:01 AM, John Dornheim <johndornheim@...>wrote:

      > Those traditions were not of which I was speaking.
      >
      > John Dornheim
      >
      > On 3/30/11, Lewis H. Whitaker <lhwhitaker@...> wrote:
      > > There are plenty of traditions where the clergy doesnt make the sign of
      > the
      > > cross.
      > >
      > > This seems rather judgmental.
      > >
      > > Lew
      > >
      > >
      > > On Mar 30, 2011, at 6:36 PM, John Dornheim <johndornheim@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Actually, what I find appalling is clergy who don't make the sign of the
      > > cross.
      > >>
      > >> John Dornheim
      > >>
      > >> On 3/30/11, Dwight J. Penas <DJP4LAW@...> wrote:
      > >>> Here's a question that may only interest Lutherans who use the
      > cranberry
      > >>> book -- er, Evangelical Lutheran Worship.
      > >>>
      > >>> In the rite for the confiteor (I haven't checked elsewhere), the symbol
      > >>> that
      > >>> it is appropriate to make the sign of the cross ("+") shows up in the
      > >>> alternative "invocation" which addresses God -- not as Father, Son, and
      > >>> Holy
      > >>> Spirit, but -- as Holy (or is it Blessed?) Trinity. Now I was taught
      > that
      > >>> "signing" at anything other than the name of God (F,S,HS) -- and
      > perhaps
      > >>> "at
      > >>> the name of Jesus" -- was inappropriate. Since Holy/Blessed Trinity
      > isn't
      > >>> a
      > >>> name, it galls me to see this. Am I wasting good gall? Should I learn
      > to
      > >>> like this?
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>> Peace
      > >>> Dwight Penas
      > >>> Minneapolis
      > >>> ____________________________
      > >>> He Who is above, now for our redemption dwells here below; and he that
      > >>> was
      > >>> lowly is by divine mercy raised. -- St. John Chrysostom
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> --
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      > >> wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to
      > >> yearn for the endless immensity of the sea.� Antoine de Saint-Exuperay
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