Re: [liturgy-l] Transubstantiation & Physics
- On 12/4/05 5:15 PM, "Frank Senn" <fcsenn@...> wrote:
> Transubstantiation is not really so intractable for those who realize thatPerhaps the most interesting take on transubstantion was a recent biography
> it was a way of defending the real presence of Christ in the sacrament.
of Galileo which suggested that the real issue of conflict between the
astronomer and theologians was not heliocentrism but rather his speculations
on atomism. If there was a molecular structure to matter, then the
scholastic Aristotelian constructs of "matter" and "substance" ceased to
have scientific currency. That meant that the terms used to express the
doctrine of transubstantiation were problematic. To some that was an attack
on the doctrine itself. Certainly the post-Vatican II emphasis on the
Paschal Mystery of the sacrament -- itself an Eastern approach -- is a way
avoiding the rather sterile scientifism of the 16th and 17th century
centuries. The pope's recent intervention at the Synod on the Eucharist
certainly enjoined an appreciation of the sacrament's deep mystery on those
who would restrict the profoundity of Christ's presence.
Director of Music & Liturgical Arts
Church of the Messiah, Toronto
- I had forgotten that! Trinity Episcopal Church in Newport, RI (est. in the
1700s) is a case in point. They have the actual pew St. George Washington
sat in on several occasions. The pews, which have little doors on them,
enclose property which goes up to outer space, and down to the center of the
earth. They are real estate! And there are benches, rather crowded, in the
balcony where the poor and the slaves sat in earlier times. They did have a
rule that if the owner did not appear 10 min. before the service, his pew
could be used by anyone! The pews are now all owned by the parish, I hope.
But who knows, privilege dieth hard!
There were other Episcopal churches dating from the 19th Cent. there that
had 'free' pews.
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Of Frank Senn
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [liturgy-l] Re: The Holy Sacrament
You guys are talking about benches. Pews are boxes. And they have their
advantages. The toddlers can play on the floor without disturbing other
worshipers and they keep out the draft. People would rent boxes (pews);
they certainly wouldn't rent benches. Benches were up in the balcony for
hoi poloi. Actually, in some churches (like the restored 18th century
Frauenkirche in Dresden) there were glassed-in box seats for the nobility as
first tier above the nave floor. The galleries were higher yet.
Frank C. Senn