Re: [liturgy-l] Questions answered was Re: Since things seem quiet
- On 9/4/05 11:00 AM, "nataliemoreau2000" <nataliemoreau2000@...> wrote:
> But all those decisions were steeped in the Catholic tradition. TheI'd be interested in what you mean by "steeped in the Catholic traditon".
> Leonine prayers were after Mass I think.
The Prayers for the conversion of Russia were added to the order of low mass
by Leo XIII (1884) and Pius XI (1934) Although they were technically
"after" the mass -- the way the Asperges was "before" the mass -- they have
no precedent and were freshly composed. The mass knew no commemoration of
St. Joseph in the canon for 19 centuries. The "In nomine Patris" was part
of the official private prayers of the celebrant and had never been part of
the rite. The "Divine Mercy" devotion is less than a century old.
All of these cases are examples of the private pieties of a pope being
inserted into the liturgy of the church of the universal church. It's worth
pointing out that these are all small flourishes to the liturgy and did not
have significant theological impact.
Director of Music & Liturgical Arts
Church of the Messiah, Toronto
- As was noted on a previus post, German sang; the Irish didn't. Lutherans also sang German Catholic hymns such as "All creatures of all our God and King" (set to Lasst uns erfreuen), "Holy God we praise your name" (Grosser Gott), and "Lo, how a rose e're blooming" (Es ist ein Rose entsprungen). Hymnody has been an ecumenical expression. "O sacred head, now wounded" is a text amplified by Paul Gerhadt from Bernard of Clairvaux. "Fath of our fathers" is, I believe, a Catholic hymn extolling confessors of the faith persecuted by Protestants, now sung lustily by Protestants.
Frank C. Senn
Scott Knitter <scottknitter@...> wrote:
It's interesting to recall that one of the first few hymns we sang in
RC churches in the 1960s was that great Catholic standard, "A mighty
fortress." :) It was quite a few years later that I learned it is a
Lutheran fight song. In fact, many of the hymns I remember from my
early days were sung to German chorale tunes: "Praise to the Lord,
the Almighty," "On this day, the first of days," "O sacred head."
Other hymns often used included "Beautiful Savior" and "Faith of our
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