Re: [liturgy-l] Re: Receiving Communion
- On 30 Jun 2004 at 22:13, Michael Joe Thannisch wrote:
> Mr. Welch inventing the pasteurising process which keeps the grape juiceAnd the folks in Erie PA are glad that he did. Just to the east of
> grape juice instead of allowing it to ferment).
here, in the vineyards through which I often bicycle, are about
14,000 acres of mostly Concord Grapes that eventually wind up in the
Methodist Communion trays. There are also a few small and
unexceptional winerys and a few other than Concords, so Welch doesn't
get all the goodies.
BTW, I understand that it was Bp. Welch.
Robert Jenson ( Lutheran theologian of some note) remarked
occasionally about the use of grape juice for the sacrament that "one
could either believe in Jesus or Welches."
Not far from where he said this, and this was the mid 1980's, was a
Lutheran congregation with a WCTU chapter.
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Pastor Robert White
Christ the Redeemer Lutheran Church (ELCA)
863 Silliman Ave.
Erie, PA USA 16511-2060
- Cody C. Unterseher said:
> Does intinction violate the spirit of the Dominical command to takeCody,
> and "drink"? I don't want to split hairs her (though that seems
> inevitable) but I'm wondering if intinction does damage to the sign
> value of drinking. . . even from <gulp! -- no pun intended>
> individual cups.
> Cody Unterseher
While I am sure it violates thew word of the command, I am not so sure
about the spirit. It is still using the common cup to share the
Sacrament, people are still consuming the blood of Christ from the
consecrated cup, and so I'd prefer Intinction to individual cups. It also
is less messy than the other alternative, which is to make individual cups
avaliable and use a pouring chalice to commune the people. I just see
visions of Luther lapping up the Precious Blood when I hear about those
Father Robert Lyons, SST
"Purity in doctrine, compassion in application."