Did the deal... took the 4145 back (never opened, so no 'restocking'
fee) and got the 5155. Still took 2 days to unbox it (busy Xmas and
The 5155 is.... perplexing. First, I'm a Win98se-guy, so the whole
NTFS thing is new to me from a 'work with it' perspective. After
much gnashing of teeth I got the drive formatted in fat32, then
split so I could do the install as I wanted it (C: 10G primary, D:
20G on extended, E: 8G on extended to split for RH). Reinstall XP
from the recovery disk (expert, to only reinstall the OS on the C:
drive), 45 minutes to do this, reboot - No Operating System message -
OK, build a better mouse-trap.... Start with RH, Disk Druid to
custom setup the same partitions. Can't get Disk Druid (or is it
Disk Drake?) to format the C: drive over the (ancient?) standard
2048Mb size (wtf?).
Partition Magic to the rescue! Pull it out and.... it's v6.0 (which
has known issues with XP, and doesn't play well with Linux). Can you
begin to see a pattern here?
Back to square one. Reinstall the (whole) XP. Another 45 minutes,
but it's there....
What is that 24Mb partition for? The recovery tools, which the CDs
automatically put there every time (4 rebuilds so far, and confirmed
with a NOT-800-#-call to HP - TGIF for evening minutes on the cell
OK, back to the fdisk partitioning, didn't bother formatting (since
the recovery disks do this automatically to the C: drive during the
install, D: I can get XP to format in fat32, and E: will go away to
Another attempt to install (Advanced) to only install the OS (XP).
It worked! Now attempt to install RH... get to the partitioning part
and get to (what amounts to) the FAT and.... it's unreadable by
RH 'do you want to initialize?'. As I clicked the 'yes' button I
read the last of it where it 'may' cause loss of everything on the
disk 'including the operating system'. Can you guess what happened
Back to XP. DL all the friggin' Critical and Suggested updates (in 5
verses, rebooting each time...), install Norton SystemWorks 2003 and
try to build a Ghost image to do this faster (off my network at home
rather than the 6 recovery CDs) - issue with Firewire, so Ghost
Ordered Partition Magic 8.0, got the message just a few ago that it
is 'in' and waiting on me at home. I will try THAT when I get home
and if I still have issues I'm likely to just punt, install RH8.0,
figure out how to make the DVD player work (no, never done this
either) and be done with it!!
And my job? I'm currently working a contract to test legacy software
for XP compatibility. Install, test, certify, rebuild from Ghost. Do
I spend TOO MUCH time figuring out this cr*p? *lol*
Thanks for the info/assist. By the time I'm ready to get a 'new'
system again, I'll know Linux well enough that I'll be in line for
that M$ Rebate as I'll never go 'back' to M$ products again on new
In a world without walls and fences...
who needs window$ and gate$?
--- In linuxonlaptop@y..., "John C. Toman" <john@t...> wrote:
> Hi Wil,
> I have a ze4145 w/ AMD mobile XP 1800+ and a dual boot Windows
> linux installation, working fine except, on the linux side:
> (1) PCMCIA under linux will cause system hangs
> (2) No accelerated X driver (but I'm told this is forthcoming)
> (3) isapnp in the RedHat installs causes a hang (not sure if this
> true in other installations)
> (4) PowerNow support (supposedly under development)
> (5) Suspend/resume/hibernate on the linux side. The RAM
> I'm trying to get to work.
> What does work (from my own tests):
> (1) The NIC: National Semiconductor Corp. DP83815
> (2) USB
> (3) RS232 serial port
> Not sure:
> (1) The modem. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. It's a
> 56K, and might be supported by an available "linmodem" driver.
> Wil wrote:
> >I am primariy an AMD guy, but this one has me rethinking...
> >Pre-Xmas prices got me looking to replace a 14 month old Compaq
> >(supposed to be able to get around the dreaded win-modem-esque
> >for the USB/NIC/Modem, but not by me!). Further HP has a 'buy
> >program at the moment, so I've decided to take the plunge and got
> >However, before I opened the box I got to searching for info on
> >installing Linux on this (or any other of the various new 'ze'
> >and found that the (southbridge I think?) architecture is a little
> >'iffy' and the pcmcia won't work. Still not a HUGE deal (compared
> >the 1215US, but I digress) since apparently the built-in NIC and
> >work, right?
> >On the one hand, I can keep this one and happily use the AMD
> >or for basically the same price get a Celeron that operates @ the
> >speed (4145 is rated at 1800+, Celeron is 1.8Ghz) - but it's a
> >vs Hammer(? - the 'full-on' AMD). OR for about another $200 I can
> >the same 1.8Ghz in a P4. IF the Celeron is a lead-pipe cinch and
> >XP is a hoaky install it's a Celeron for me. Just object on
> >to getting the 'neutered' processor over the workhorse AMD, and
> >the P4 is in the picture.
> >I DID find a really good (but since lost the...) link that
> >the AMD to P4 processor and specifically the ATI card
> >explained (in pretty good detail) WHY the Intel is handled better
> >AMD for this setup.
> >My primary operative here is this will be a Linux-learner box that
> >will also run some Win aps, so it will be a dual-boot system (and
> >the mentioned PCs are so desireable for the extra h/d space). I am
> >still a Linux newbie, but my goal is to be M$ free by the end of
> >With what I've seen I think the Sony or Dell would be a much
> >way to go, but the HP buy-back is for HP products ONLY - of
> >;-) - and thus the only options on the plate.
> >Anybody wanna weigh-in on this one? Any/all help will be greatly
> >appreciated. Date is 12/1/02, so have only til about the 5th or
> >decide - and, of course, the longer I wait the more crazy I'm
> >staring at the box!!
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