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  • Richard Dowty
    This does not happen on all computers. On one of my computers I had to reload Fedora 17 from the beginning. It locked up the main program. So I had to go from
    Message 1 of 5 , Aug 3, 2012
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      This does not happen on all computers. On one of my computers I had to reload Fedora 17 from the beginning. It locked up the main program. So I had to go from scratch from the new aspect of loading as a new computer. you know, format and etc. Lost all of my information like bookmarks. I am fortunately that I have another computer with that same information...Whew!
      Rich/W7EET


      From: Adrian <vk4tux@...>
      To: linuxham@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:06 PM
      Subject: [linuxham] Fedora 16 > 17 preupgrade or dvd upgrade issues

       
      Just a quick heads up for those looking at using preupgrade or dvd upgrade (iso burn) from fc16 to fc17. I just been through the process on a Toshiba laptop
      And there a few foot traps along the way;
       
      On fc17 dvd upgrade,( the boot options for bios is dvd, hdd) - and the dvd boots but then it appears that it loses the  location of the cd rom drive
       
      You will see:
       
      ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device
       
      try this workaround:
      - press tab to get to the kernel command line
      - replace "root=...." with "root=live:/dev/sr0"
       
      So the dvd drive is recognised properly.
       
       
      See this webpage (The best on the subject);
       
      http://linuxfordummies.org/preupgrade-from-fedora-16-to-fedora-17-boots-to-old-fedora-16-kernel-issuefix/
       
      With PREUPGRADE the reboot is a fc17 release but using the latest fc16 kernel due to a grub2/grub.cfg write problem, where lines 39 through to 50
       
      (4 lines)
       
      Need to have fc16 changed to fc17.
       
      Then the repo issue that tries to update both fc16 and fc17 with yum update (see * below), also fc17 kernel needs to be installed,
       
      i.e :  yum install kernel*fc17*;
       
      1st) fix grub2 problem with loading wrong (older) f16 kernel during first boot, after preupgrade 2nd) run preupgrade again.
      what happens (as I understand it) some installation software read the version from the kernel, which was -- erroneously - set as f16 and messes up the whole repository configuration, which uses environmental variables to determine what to download.
      after first install with the error in kernel, you fix the kernel, and by running again preupgrade (which btw downloads nothing) straighten the thing somehow.
      if it still gives you trouble with the version of repos,
      vi /etc/yum/vars/releasever
      write: '17'
      yum repolist
       
      (NB I did this as just above to sort out the update issue and only fc17 as should be)
      should give you the right ones.
      now, if you issue:
      package-cleanup --orphans
      should give you all the older non-f17 packages "out-there"
      package-cleanup --dupes|grep f17|less
      unfortunately gives still TOO many f17 packages
      I'd consider getting rid of the orphans, although once the release is fixed yum update will clean out the fc16 versions in any case.
      yum reinstall fedora-release
      Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
      Resolving Dependencies
      --> Running transaction check
      ---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:16-1 will be updated
      ---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1 will be an update
      ---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1 will be erased
      --> Finished Dependency Resolution

      Dependencies Resolved

      ================================================================================
      Package                 Arch            Version       Repository          Size
      ================================================================================
      Updating:
      fedora-release          noarch          17-1          fedora              27 k
      Removing:
      fedora-release          noarch          17-1          installed           29 k
      Not available:
      fedora-release          noarch          16-1          -                  0.0 

      Transaction Summary
      ================================================================================
      Upgrade        1 Package
      Remove         1 Package
      Not available  1 Package

      Total download size: 27 k
      Is this ok [y/N]: y
      Downloading Packages:
      Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
      fedora-release-17-1.noarch.rpm                           |  27 kB     00:00    
      warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 1aca3465: NOKEY
      Public key for fedora-release-17-1.noarch.rpm is not installed
      Retrieving key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
      Importing GPG key 0x1ACA3465:
      Userid     : "Fedora (17) <fedora@...>"
      Fingerprint: cac4 3fb7 74a4 a673 d81c 5de7 50e9 4c99 1aca 3465
      Package    : fedora-release-17-1.noarch (installed)
      From       : /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
      Is this ok [y/N]: y
      Running Transaction Check
      Running Transaction Test
      Transaction Test Succeeded
      Running Transaction
        Updating   : fedora-release-17-1.noarch                                   1/3
        Cleanup    : fedora-release.noarch                                        2/3
        Verifying  : fedora-release-17-1.noarch                                   1/2
        Verifying  : fedora-release-17-1.noarch                                   2/2
        Verifying  : fedora-release-16-1.noarch                                   3/2

      Removed:
        fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1                                                 

      Updated:
        fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1                                                  

      Complete!
      Older redundant material can be removed with:
      yum remove $(package-cleanup --dupes)
      and some older kernels which were removed with:
      package-cleanup –oldkernels
       
      See;
       
       
       
      GL es 73
       
      Adrian … vk4tux


    • Ed
      ... $40 external HD. Daily backups. I looked on ebay, 250 gig externals for $30 and free shipping. Lubuntu 12.04 installed without a hiccup. To each his own.
      Message 2 of 5 , Aug 3, 2012
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        On 08/03/2012 05:32 PM, Richard Dowty wrote:
        > This does not happen on all computers. On one of my computers I had
        > to reload Fedora 17 from the beginning. It locked up the main
        > program. So I had to go from scratch from the new aspect of loading
        > as a new computer. you know, format and etc. Lost all of my
        > information like bookmarks. I am fortunately that I have another
        > computer with that same information...Whew! Rich/W7EET

        $40 external HD. Daily backups. I looked on ebay, 250 gig externals for
        $30 and free shipping.

        Lubuntu 12.04 installed without a hiccup. To each his own.

        Ed W3NR
      • Adrian
        Yes True Rich, My desktop PC had no issue, but the info/links are there for those that run into trouble. First time I have seen these issues with fedora, but
        Message 3 of 5 , Aug 3, 2012
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          Yes True Rich, My desktop PC had no issue, but the info/links are there for those that run into trouble. First time I have seen these issues with fedora, but FC17 looks v-good once there. I was adamant to keep my data and just upgrade from fc16 (not replace). The steps after upgrade of  installing the fc17 kernal, grub.cfg edit and release server stipulation for yum all came together nicely for the laptop, which does the ham stuff for me.

           

          Cheers

           

          Adrian …vk4tux

           

          From: linuxham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:linuxham@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Dowty
          Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2012 7:32 AM
          To: linuxham@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [linuxham] Fedora 16 > 17 preupgrade or dvd upgrade issues

           

           

          This does not happen on all computers. On one of my computers I had to reload Fedora 17 from the beginning. It locked up the main program. So I had to go from scratch from the new aspect of loading as a new computer. you know, format and etc. Lost all of my information like bookmarks. I am fortunately that I have another computer with that same information...Whew!

          Rich/W7EET

           


          From: Adrian <vk4tux@...>
          To: linuxham@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:06 PM
          Subject: [linuxham] Fedora 16 > 17 preupgrade or dvd upgrade issues

           

           

          Just a quick heads up for those looking at using preupgrade or dvd upgrade (iso burn) from fc16 to fc17. I just been through the process on a Toshiba laptop

          And there a few foot traps along the way;

           

          On fc17 dvd upgrade,( the boot options for bios is dvd, hdd) - and the dvd boots but then it appears that it loses the  location of the cd rom drive

           

          You will see:

           

          ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device

           

          try this workaround:

          - press tab to get to the kernel command line

          - replace "root=...." with "root=live:/dev/sr0"

           

          So the dvd drive is recognised properly.

           

           

          See this webpage (The best on the subject);

           

           

          With PREUPGRADE the reboot is a fc17 release but using the latest fc16 kernel due to a grub2/grub.cfg write problem, where lines 39 through to 50

           

          (4 lines)

           

          Need to have fc16 changed to fc17.

           

          Then the repo issue that tries to update both fc16 and fc17 with yum update (see * below), also fc17 kernel needs to be installed,

           

          i.e :  yum install kernel*fc17*;

           

          1st) fix grub2 problem with loading wrong (older) f16 kernel during first boot, after preupgrade 2nd) run preupgrade again.

          what happens (as I understand it) some installation software read the version from the kernel, which was -- erroneously - set as f16 and messes up the whole repository configuration, which uses environmental variables to determine what to download.

          after first install with the error in kernel, you fix the kernel, and by running again preupgrade (which btw downloads nothing) straighten the thing somehow.

          if it still gives you trouble with the version of repos,

          vi /etc/yum/vars/releasever

          write: '17'

          yum repolist

           

          (NB I did this as just above to sort out the update issue and only fc17 as should be)

          should give you the right ones.

          now, if you issue:

          package-cleanup --orphans

          should give you all the older non-f17 packages "out-there"

          package-cleanup --dupes|grep f17|less

          unfortunately gives still TOO many f17 packages

          I'd consider getting rid of the orphans, although once the release is fixed yum update will clean out the fc16 versions in any case.

          yum reinstall fedora-release
          Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
          Resolving Dependencies
          --> Running transaction check
          ---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:16-1 will be updated
          ---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1 will be an update
          ---> Package fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1 will be erased
          --> Finished Dependency Resolution

          Dependencies Resolved

          ================================================================================
          Package                 Arch            Version       Repository          Size
          ================================================================================
          Updating:
          fedora-release          noarch          17-1          fedora              27 k
          Removing:
          fedora-release          noarch          17-1          installed           29 k
          Not available:
          fedora-release          noarch          16-1          -                  0.0 

          Transaction Summary
          ================================================================================
          Upgrade        1 Package
          Remove         1 Package
          Not available  1 Package

          Total download size: 27 k
          Is this ok [y/N]: y
          Downloading Packages:
          Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
          fedora-release-17-1.noarch.rpm                           |  27 kB     00:00    
          warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 1aca3465: NOKEY
          Public key for fedora-release-17-1.noarch.rpm is not installed
          Retrieving key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
          Importing GPG key 0x1ACA3465:
          Userid     : "Fedora (17) <fedora@...>"
          Fingerprint: cac4 3fb7 74a4 a673 d81c 5de7 50e9 4c99 1aca 3465
          Package    : fedora-release-17-1.noarch (installed)
          From       : /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64
          Is this ok [y/N]: y
          Running Transaction Check
          Running Transaction Test
          Transaction Test Succeeded
          Running Transaction
            Updating   : fedora-release-17-1.noarch                                   1/3
            Cleanup    : fedora-release.noarch                                        2/3
            Verifying  : fedora-release-17-1.noarch                                   1/2
            Verifying  : fedora-release-17-1.noarch                                   2/2
            Verifying  : fedora-release-16-1.noarch                                   3/2

          Removed:
            fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1                                                 

          Updated:
            fedora-release.noarch 0:17-1                                                  

          Complete!

          Older redundant material can be removed with:

          yum remove $(package-cleanup --dupes)

          and some older kernels which were removed with:

          package-cleanup –oldkernels

           

          See;

           

           

           

          GL es 73

           

          Adrian … vk4tux

           

        • Adrian
          This does not happen on all computers. On one of my computers I had to reload Fedora 17 from the beginning. It locked up the main program. So I had to go from
          Message 4 of 5 , Aug 3, 2012
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            This does not happen on all computers. On one of my computers I had to reload Fedora 17 from the beginning. It locked up the main program. So I had to go from scratch from the new aspect of loading as a new computer. you know, format and etc. Lost all of my information like bookmarks. I am fortunately that I have another computer with that same information...Whew!

            Rich/W7EET

             

            That sounds like the drive recognition issue if you were using a dvd burn etc, Did you have the “~could not load floppy” message when that happened?

             

            Adrian … vk4tux

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