Re: [linux] Re: Test, please ignore
- On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:22:04PM -0000, Thad Floryan wrote:
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Scott <scottro@...> wrote:Hrrm, I obviously wasn't clear. mbox is one huge file, with various things
> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:25:45AM -0000, Thad Floryan wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > Did it work? Bounce? Get lost again by Yahoo's crap email
> > > server?
> > It went to the maildir, but there was no N to the left of it to
> > indicate newmail. In mutt, if I use maildir, it shows every
> > directory as 4k. If a few emails get in there, the size changes,
> > but, if I get a small email, for example, there's no indication.
> > With mbox, it shows as 0 and even a .9k email, for example, some
> > test I send myself, will show up.
> > If one has thousands of emails saved, maildir almost certainly has
> > advantages, since it's an individual file. However, mbox can
> > easily be moved back and forth to say, claws-mail, not sure which
> > mail clients, aside from Evolution, which seems to my elderly
> > tastes, as bloated as Outlook.
> Though I haven't "played" with maildir format, your comment that it's
> a single file is the same problem with Microsoft's Exchange server
> with all email in one file -- that's the kiss of death when things go
> wrong which is common.
in the file to separate individual mails. Maildir makes each email message
a separate file.
>As I understand it, mbox keeps each mailbox as file--that is, if you have
> With mbox format mail every email is a separate file so generally one
> "might" lose one email if there is a disk error.
inbox and no other mailboxes, it's one huge file composed of all your
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- --- In email@example.com, Scott <scottro@...> wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:22:04PM -0000, Thad Floryan wrote:Hmmm. You're right and I'm "sort of" correct. :-)
> > [...]
> > Though I haven't "played" with maildir format, your comment that
> > it's a single file is the same problem with Microsoft's Exchange
> > server with all email in one file -- that's the kiss of death
> > when things go wrong which is common.
> Hrrm, I obviously wasn't clear. mbox is one huge file, with
> various things in the file to separate individual mails. Maildir
> makes each email message a separate file.
> > [...]
> > With mbox format mail every email is a separate file so generally
> > one "might" lose one email if there is a disk error.
> As I understand it, mbox keeps each mailbox as file -- that is, if
> you have inbox and no other mailboxes, it's one huge file composed
> of all your emails.
It's been too long since I've looked at the actual email hierarchy. I
checked back in my archives and saw (and now remembered) I wrote a
program called mailsplit back in the 1980s that would examine an
inbox file and split it up into individual files based on the
"From " (that's "From" followed by a space) separator.
Dovecot's been running for so long now because it's the best for IMAP
and it's one of only three standards-compliant IMAP servers:
http://imapwiki.org/ImapTest/ServerStatus IMAP servers' status
and Dovecot does have separate files for each email along with VERY
fast indexing and searching. Here's how many emails I have on my
server as of a minute ago across several hundred mail folders noting
several of the items counted are Dovecot's index files:
thadlabs bash 70971/70977> pwd
thadlabs bash 70971/70977> ls -lR | wc -l
thadlabs bash 70971/70977>
I suppose I've been using Thunderbird for so long now (10 years)
that some of the various email setups are blurred in my memory; I
just leave everything now on the server (FreeBSD) so it's available
from any of my systems or even from anyplace in the world via the
webmail facility -- disk space is cheap. About once a year I tar
up the mail directory and copy that to a system on my LAN; there is
already a backup disk on the server with a copy of all the mail -- I
once had to restore an email from that backup disk on the server.