64658Re: [linux] Using Google
- Aug 29, 2014On 8/29/2014 12:54 PM, ed wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 01:07:52AM -0700, Thad Floryan thad@... [linux] wrote:Hi Ed,
>> I very seriously doubt Google is producing search tracking info for
>> webmasters whose sites appear in a results list -- Google is *NOT*
>> under *ANY* circumstances altruistic like that. Note there's a LOT
>> of info in the mangled URLs that are not search terms and clearly
>> are "something" that's encoded and known only to Google and Youtube.
> Imagining that Google does track users, there's only two things that I
> can think they'd do this for:
> 1) so that SSL user clicks can help webmasters to better organise
> their sites
> 2) so that if someone is searching for "cats with big hats" they know
> roughly when the user does indeed find something that meets this
> criteria, so increase the site index position
A big "NO" on (1), and a possible yes on (2).
Examine the mangled URL again; I'll break it up for readability and
explain the three parts:
The following 3 parts were originally an all-one-line URL returned from
a Google search without the 'Google/Yandex Search Fix' plugin enabled:
(1) directs ALL clicks to Google for analysis and has some data that
describes the search term for which this was the result
(2) is the resultant URL to which the user who clicked the search
result will be re-directed after translation per:
'%3A' = ":"
'%2F' = "/"
(3) is whatever information Google could steal from the user via
hooks and backdoors in the user's browser; it is encoded and
probably includes username, email address, IP address, and more.
> I don't think that google are counting the hits for altruistic reasons,Google's product and revenue source is the users and the ads they read.
> I think it's all for user lock-in, to make their product better than
> $other product,
> if web masters get good information, they'll use googleIn general, Google is not serving anyone but itself. It's possible the
> tools more than bing tools. Keep the product good, keep users happy. I
> don't know how else the information could be provided to the web masters
> if they didn't do this.
item (3) above is incorporated into "Google Analytics" but I really don't
care since I block everything and never, ever see any ads from anyone.
> What else would google want the information for? Anyone circumventingMany, MANY ads redirect users to malware sites. Over 250,000 readers of
> this is hurting the internet for the rest of the users :)
the New York Times were malware-infected simply by visiting a New York
Times page and doing nothing due to the automatic and most evil feature
of the web: IFRAMEs. It's IFRAMEs that implement drive-by infections.
Microsoft invented IFRAMEs. That's good enough for me to suggest that
Redmond WA be nuked from orbit just to be safe.
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