61133Re: CentOS, RedHat, and Linux Distros etc...
- Sep 1, 2012--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Mike Adams <coss_michael@...> wrote:
> [...]Hi Mike,
> I'm certainly not to the point where any of what happened to you
> with the CentOS and RedHat changes would have even impacted on me.
> My use of a computer doesn't require that level of operation.
> Losing OpenOffice would have surprised me, but I would have just
> reinstalled it and moved on.
Ah, but I did reinstall OpenOffice though other bugs with RHEL/CentOS
prevented it from appearing in the Applications->Office menu; in fact
the Office menu itself would not return even though it shows in the
alacarte program (which is what's used to edit the menus). So I had
to create a top-bar launcher and that worked fine. But read further
down. Here's after reinstallation of OpenOffice; note the bugs:
Then, later, the Redhat/CentOS douchebags did another untested update
which clobbered libraries used by both OpenOffice and GoogleEarth, and
now neither of those two apps function any more. System is hosed, and
I have NO idea what it'll take to get those programs running again
other than to wipeout CentOS and install anything other than a toy OS
such as RHEL or CentOS. That subsequent update FUBAR library delete
is documented here:
Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:23 pm
"Hasta la vista CentOS/RHEL -- avoid it like the plague"
> I programmed back in the Commodore days, but I was never "good" atSo did I and I still have what may arguably be the world's largest
> it though many people thought I was. I knew I didn't have the real
> talent for it and was just a dabbler.
C64 re: disk drives and other accessories. I was also an Amiga
developer and helped run FAUG (First Amiga Users Group) and BAADGE
(Bay Area Amiga Developers GroupE). Our FAUG meetings started in a
church hall in Belmont CA because the church thought a "users group"
was some kind of drug rehabilitation organization and didn't charge us
rental fees for the hall! :-) Later we moved the meetings to the
Palo Alto Hyatt where we'd often have 2,000 to 3,000 members attend
especially on nights when Electronic Arts appeared. I demo'd the
MARBLE MADNESS game in front of that group and won! I also arranged for the BAADGE meetings to be at the auditorium at SLAC (Stanford
Linear Accelerator Center) because I had friends there; Xerox-PARC's auditorium wasn't large enough. I still have 3 functional Amiga's
two of which I upgraded to MC68010 and MC68020 CPUs and SCSI disks.
> However, I do have some udnerstanding of what you're talking about.That's understandable because those multiple programs are all part
> I use LibreOffice primarily because it comes preinstalled in the
> distro I use, but I only use the word processor and the
> presentation software. I tried uninstalling the spreadsheet and
> database because I knew I'd never use them, but along the way lost discovered there were some dependencies between them, so I haven't
> fiddled with them since.
of the same software suite.
Here's something insane and verifies RedHat/CentOS developers are
total idiots: when I attempted to delete LibreOffice from CentOS
it mentioned it would delete Firefox also. WTF?! So I deleted
LibreOffice simply by going to where it was on the disk and simply
# rm -r .* *
but that still left LibreOffice dingleberries randomly located on the
system which required explicit deletes.
> I could switch to OpenOffice fairly easily, of course, but I haveBut what was the issue? Surely not disk space.
> no need for the entire suite in its case either. For the moment,
> it's not a big issue with me.
> I think I've read somewhere that the next iteration of Ubuntu willThat doesn't make any sense. I wonder where Ubuntu is going. Read
> have Abiword instead of LibreOffice, and I suppose that's because
> they are wanting to control the size of the distro.
and scroll down to this section:
Ubuntu vs Debian: the heart says Ubuntu, but the brains says Debian
whose sub-sections are:
Ubuntu supports less than 25% of available packages with security
Debian releases are much more bug-free and stable
Ubuntu's commercial support is not available for TurnKey anyhow
Note the above is TURNkey linux, not Turkey linux. :-)
> I'm beginning to "accept" Ubuntu's default desktop now that I'veThe Ubuntus I have (8.04.4 and 9.04) I'll keep running forever because
> finally learned enough about desktops and customization to make it
> more usable.
> It's installed on my laptop alongside Linux Mint (MATE). That old
> desktop has Mint XFCE on it primarily because I like XFCE and don't
> like LDXE (which would probably be a better suited desktop for it
> due to its limitations).
the 8.04.4 is great on one of my laptops-as-a-desktop and 9.04 runs my
SheevaPlug LAN servers.
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