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  • McDonnell, Stephen
    Sorry meant to change the subject of this before sending but my fingers are faster than the brain this early. ... From: McDonnell, Stephen
    Message 1 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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      Sorry meant to change the subject of this before sending but my fingers are
      faster than the brain this early.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
      Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
      To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
      Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2


      Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of the
      workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this program with
      Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they didn't
      offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy they no
      longer use? Email me privately.

      Steve

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Steve Lane [mailto:steve.lane@...]
      Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
      To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2


      Hi,

      I have installed RH 7.2 on my Dell Laptop Inspiron 5000e. I am considering
      ditching Windows for Linux especially now I have tested a beta copy of
      vmware and Windows 2000 for occasional usage. However I need some help
      getting my Lucent WinModem working which was detected by Linux on boot. I
      can see the modem in KDE control panel, but /dev/modem is not there. I have
      tried linking it to ttyS0 to ttyS9 but that doesn't work. A collegue of
      mine determined that Linux had detected com ports and assigned them to
      ttyS00 and ttyS01 but these don't exist in /dev either. MAKEDEV reports
      that is can't make these devices. I can tell that the modem is using IO
      ports, but I really don't know how to make it work. Can anyone assist
      please??

      Kind Regards

      Steve

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    • jsc3@havoc.gtf.org
      Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware Workstation 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test. I have been using
      Message 2 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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        Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware Workstation
        3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test. I
        have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
        pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
        do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second disk,
        Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get Firewire
        working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
        I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.

        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
        > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
        > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
        > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
        >
        > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of the
        > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this program with
        > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they didn't
        > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy they no
        > longer use? Email me privately.
        >
        > Steve

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      • Jimmy Chen
        It s an awesome product for the linux environment, it s worth the money. I have been used it since version 1.0. It rocks!! ... =====
        Message 3 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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          It's an awesome product for the linux environment, it's worth the
          money. I have been used it since version 1.0. It rocks!!

          --- jsc3@... wrote:
          > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware
          > Workstation
          > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test.
          > I
          > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
          > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
          > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second
          > disk,
          > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get
          > Firewire
          > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
          > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
          >
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
          > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
          > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
          > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
          > >
          > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of
          > the
          > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this
          > program with
          > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they
          > didn't
          > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy
          > they no
          > > longer use? Email me privately.
          > >
          > > Steve
          >
          > --
          > John Cronin
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          >


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        • Stephen Lau
          I second that... I paid $99 (academic price, whoo hoo) for mine, and running Win2k under it is beautiful. -steve ... -- stephen lau :: [slau@ucsd.edu] ::
          Message 4 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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            I second that... I paid $99 (academic price, whoo hoo) for mine, and
            running Win2k under it is beautiful.

            -steve

            On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:11:12AM -0400, jsc3@... wrote:
            > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware Workstation
            > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test. I
            > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
            > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
            > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second disk,
            > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get Firewire
            > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
            > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
            >
            > > -----Original Message-----
            > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
            > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
            > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
            > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
            > >
            > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of the
            > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this program with
            > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they didn't
            > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy they no
            > > longer use? Email me privately.
            > >
            > > Steve
            >
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            >
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          • jsc3@havoc.gtf.org
            I guess since I do still have a valid .edu address, I could have gotten it cheaper, but I have decided to pay for software that I find truly useful, and that
            Message 5 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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              I guess since I do still have a valid ".edu" address, I could have
              gotten it cheaper, but I have decided to pay for software that I
              find truly useful, and that is reasonably priced and licensed. VMware
              is exceptional in that regard, so I payed full price to help their
              development along.

              Steve said:
              > I second that... I paid $99 (academic price, whoo hoo) for mine, and
              > running Win2k under it is beautiful.
              >
              > -steve
              >
              > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:11:12AM -0400, jsc3@... wrote:
              > > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware Workstation
              > > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test. I
              > > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
              > > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
              > > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second disk,
              > > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get Firewire
              > > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
              > > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.

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            • Jason Jarrar
              To be or not to be. Win 2000 version? or Linux Version of VMWare? I have applications on my W2K I cannot reinstall (Thanks to RH disk wipe). If I understand
              Message 6 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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                To be or not to be. Win 2000 version? or Linux Version of VMWare? I have
                applications on my W2K I cannot reinstall (Thanks to RH disk wipe). If I
                understand this correctly you must reinstall the OS you want to use after
                installing VMWare. OS if I buy the Linux version I have to reinstall W2K and
                all the upgrades and applications = 3 weeks of labor, or if I buy the W2K
                version I install linux which I will be doing again when I receive SuSe 7.3
                = 3 hours. Any advice? was not planning to spend any more money on W2K
                applications?

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Stephen Lau [mailto:slau@...]
                Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:13 PM
                To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                I second that... I paid $99 (academic price, whoo hoo) for mine, and
                running Win2k under it is beautiful.

                -steve

                On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:11:12AM -0400, jsc3@... wrote:
                > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware Workstation
                > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test. I
                > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
                > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
                > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second disk,
                > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get Firewire
                > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
                > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
                >
                > > -----Original Message-----
                > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
                > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
                > >
                > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of the
                > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this program
                with
                > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they didn't
                > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy they
                no
                > > longer use? Email me privately.
                > >
                > > Steve
                >
                > --
                > John Cronin
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                >
                >
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              • camfranchuk@netscape.net
                Given Linux vast superiority in handling system resources, I would put in the extra work to use the Linux version. It has been said that running windows
                Message 7 of 26 , Oct 26, 2001
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                  Given Linux' vast superiority in handling system resources, I would
                  put in the extra work to use the Linux version. It has been said that
                  running windows under Linux is faster and more stable than running
                  windows by itself.

                  Just my opinion though.

                  cam


                  --- In linux-dell-laptops@y..., Jason Jarrar <jjarrar@o...> wrote:
                  > To be or not to be. Win 2000 version? or Linux Version of VMWare? I have
                  > applications on my W2K I cannot reinstall (Thanks to RH disk wipe). If I
                  > understand this correctly you must reinstall the OS you want to use
                  after
                  > installing VMWare. OS if I buy the Linux version I have to reinstall
                  W2K and
                  > all the upgrades and applications = 3 weeks of labor, or if I buy
                  the W2K
                  > version I install linux which I will be doing again when I receive
                  SuSe 7.3
                  > = 3 hours. Any advice? was not planning to spend any more money on W2K
                  > applications?
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: Stephen Lau [mailto:slau@u...]
                  > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:13 PM
                  > To: linux-dell-laptops@y...
                  > Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                  >
                  >
                  > I second that... I paid $99 (academic price, whoo hoo) for mine, and
                  > running Win2k under it is beautiful.
                  >
                  > -steve
                  >
                  > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 09:11:12AM -0400, jsc3@h... wrote:
                  > > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware
                  Workstation
                  > > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test. I
                  > > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
                  > > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
                  > > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second disk,
                  > > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get
                  Firewire
                  > > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
                  > > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
                  > >
                  > > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@A...]
                  > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
                  > > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@y...'
                  > > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
                  > > >
                  > > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run
                  of the
                  > > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this
                  program
                  > with
                  > > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they
                  didn't
                  > > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a
                  copy they
                  > no
                  > > > longer use? Email me privately.
                  > > >
                  > > > Steve
                  > >
                  > > --
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                  > >
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                • McDonnell, Stephen
                  Yes I was able to find the 3.0 beta for free and downloaded it. Everything went smoothly except I can t seem to get it to boot from the virtual hard drive
                  Message 8 of 26 , Oct 29, 2001
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                    Yes I was able to find the 3.0 beta for free and downloaded it. Everything
                    went smoothly except I can't seem to get it to boot from the virtual hard
                    drive (VHD). Anyone else run in to this? I've tried changing the boot
                    settings in bios. I've formatted the VHD with Win98 and sys'd it. No good,
                    I Ghosted my Win image on it, no good, I installed Win98 from CD and no good
                    :( In all cases it runs bios and searches for drives and then tried to boot
                    floppy and the screen blanks and it freezes.

                    Steve

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: Jimmy Chen [mailto:chen_jimmy_99@...]
                    Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:38 AM
                    To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                    It's an awesome product for the linux environment, it's worth the
                    money. I have been used it since version 1.0. It rocks!!

                    --- jsc3@... wrote:
                    > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware
                    > Workstation
                    > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test.
                    > I
                    > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
                    > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
                    > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second
                    > disk,
                    > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get
                    > Firewire
                    > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
                    > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
                    >
                    > > -----Original Message-----
                    > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                    > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
                    > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                    > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
                    > >
                    > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of
                    > the
                    > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this
                    > program with
                    > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they
                    > didn't
                    > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy
                    > they no
                    > > longer use? Email me privately.
                    > >
                    > > Steve
                    >
                    > --
                    > John Cronin
                    > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                    >


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                  • Domsalla, Thorsten
                    ... Let me guess: You don t use your floppy drive? If so, turn off the floppy in the VMware settings. T. J.
                    Message 9 of 26 , Oct 29, 2001
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                      > except I can't seem to get it to boot from the
                      > virtual hard drive (VHD). Anyone else run in to
                      > [...]
                      > then tried to boot
                      > floppy and the screen blanks and it freezes.

                      Let me guess: You don't use your floppy drive? If so, turn off the floppy in
                      the VMware settings.

                      T. J.
                    • McDonnell, Stephen
                      Actually I did use my floppy to boot the Win98 recovery disk. I do this because I would prefer to Ghost the image on the HD and not install Windows again.
                      Message 10 of 26 , Oct 29, 2001
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                        Actually I did use my floppy to boot the Win98 recovery disk. I do this
                        because I would prefer to Ghost the image on the HD and not install Windows
                        again. Even when I sys c: and change the boot order and have the floppy
                        last it still just clears the screen and freezes. I tried to check out the
                        VMWare yahoogroup but they've had like 15 post's in 2 years or something
                        like that, kind of a dead group.

                        Steve

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Domsalla, Thorsten [mailto:thorsten.domsalla@...]
                        Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:54 AM
                        To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                        Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                        > except I can't seem to get it to boot from the
                        > virtual hard drive (VHD). Anyone else run in to
                        > [...]
                        > then tried to boot
                        > floppy and the screen blanks and it freezes.

                        Let me guess: You don't use your floppy drive? If so, turn off the floppy in
                        the VMware settings.

                        T. J.



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                      • Domsalla, Thorsten
                        ... Are there some other devices (CDROM, CD/RW, external HD) that are not plugged in but configured in VMware to be active at start time? Check the BIOS
                        Message 11 of 26 , Oct 29, 2001
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                          > last it still just clears the screen and freezes. I tried to

                          Are there some other devices (CDROM, CD/RW, external HD) that are not
                          plugged in but configured in VMware to be active at start time? Check the
                          BIOS settings of the VM. Check the hardware settings of your VMware
                          instance.

                          T. J.
                        • McDonnell, Stephen
                          I don t believe so since I was able to boot from floppy(and CD for that matter) and install a ghosted image on the drive. But when I reboot it goes through
                          Message 12 of 26 , Oct 29, 2001
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                            I don't believe so since I was able to boot from floppy(and CD for that
                            matter) and install a ghosted image on the drive. But when I reboot it goes
                            through it's bios and on the OS loader clears the screen and freezes. It
                            never even tries to access the VHD, I know hits because as it's booting I'm
                            watching the icons in the lower right for activity. I see the Floppy then
                            the CD and then it clears and freezes. I was just wondering if someone had
                            seen this on their box, I don't want to monopolize bandwidth on non Dell
                            Linux stuff if I can help it. I'll hunt out a VMWare newsgroup and check it
                            out. If you have suggestions though please feel free to email me directly
                            smcdonnell at aegonusa dot com.

                            Steve

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Domsalla, Thorsten [mailto:thorsten.domsalla@...]
                            Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:05 AM
                            To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                            Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                            > last it still just clears the screen and freezes. I tried to

                            Are there some other devices (CDROM, CD/RW, external HD) that are not
                            plugged in but configured in VMware to be active at start time? Check the
                            BIOS settings of the VM. Check the hardware settings of your VMware
                            instance.

                            T. J.



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                          • Jason Jarrar
                            Usually the virtual hard drive is setup to SD1 which is SCSI and will be the first in the boot sequence if you did not install an OS on that drive then when
                            Message 13 of 26 , Oct 29, 2001
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                              Usually the virtual hard drive is setup to SD1 which is SCSI and will be the
                              first in the boot sequence if you did not install an OS on that drive then
                              when the VM tries to boot it will go first to that drive and will not find
                              an OS to boot. Since this drive is not part of the bios it over ride the
                              boot sequence of your bios. You have to do one of two things:

                              1) install a whole OS using the virtual hard drive.
                              2) for existing OS I usually delete or move the virtual hard drive so it is
                              not sd1. Once that is done then the VM machine and your bios agree on your
                              hard drive boot sequence and you can find the boot hard drive. the order the
                              raw drives added to your VM machine should be the same order they are
                              defined in your bios if this is an OS that you boot from VMWare and / or
                              from the MBR.

                              I have W2K as my host operating system, I also have SuSe 7.2 installed and
                              lilo loaded into the MBR. Using the second method I can also used VMWare to
                              load SuSe as a guest OS over W2K. the thing I am still working on is having
                              two SuSe installs with everything the same except for the / partition
                              different. This will allow for things like display drivers and network
                              drivers to be different so I can take full advantage of the SuSe Linux
                              install in native mode or in guest mode.

                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                              Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:51 AM
                              To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                              Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                              Yes I was able to find the 3.0 beta for free and downloaded it. Everything
                              went smoothly except I can't seem to get it to boot from the virtual hard
                              drive (VHD). Anyone else run in to this? I've tried changing the boot
                              settings in bios. I've formatted the VHD with Win98 and sys'd it. No good,
                              I Ghosted my Win image on it, no good, I installed Win98 from CD and no good
                              :( In all cases it runs bios and searches for drives and then tried to boot
                              floppy and the screen blanks and it freezes.

                              Steve

                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: Jimmy Chen [mailto:chen_jimmy_99@...]
                              Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:38 AM
                              To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                              It's an awesome product for the linux environment, it's worth the
                              money. I have been used it since version 1.0. It rocks!!

                              --- jsc3@... wrote:
                              > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware
                              > Workstation
                              > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test.
                              > I
                              > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
                              > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
                              > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second
                              > disk,
                              > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get
                              > Firewire
                              > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
                              > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
                              >
                              > > -----Original Message-----
                              > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                              > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
                              > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                              > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
                              > >
                              > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of
                              > the
                              > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this
                              > program with
                              > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they
                              > didn't
                              > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy
                              > they no
                              > > longer use? Email me privately.
                              > >
                              > > Steve
                              >
                              > --
                              > John Cronin
                              > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                              >


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                            • McDonnell, Stephen
                              I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow to point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably awesome,
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                                I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow to
                                point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably
                                awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by this you
                                mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what I've been
                                trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your right
                                about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.

                                Steve


                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:jjarrar@...]
                                Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:03 PM
                                To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                Usually the virtual hard drive is setup to SD1 which is SCSI and will be the
                                first in the boot sequence if you did not install an OS on that drive then
                                when the VM tries to boot it will go first to that drive and will not find
                                an OS to boot. Since this drive is not part of the bios it over ride the
                                boot sequence of your bios. You have to do one of two things:

                                1) install a whole OS using the virtual hard drive.
                                2) for existing OS I usually delete or move the virtual hard drive so it is
                                not sd1. Once that is done then the VM machine and your bios agree on your
                                hard drive boot sequence and you can find the boot hard drive. the order the
                                raw drives added to your VM machine should be the same order they are
                                defined in your bios if this is an OS that you boot from VMWare and / or
                                from the MBR.

                                I have W2K as my host operating system, I also have SuSe 7.2 installed and
                                lilo loaded into the MBR. Using the second method I can also used VMWare to
                                load SuSe as a guest OS over W2K. the thing I am still working on is having
                                two SuSe installs with everything the same except for the / partition
                                different. This will allow for things like display drivers and network
                                drivers to be different so I can take full advantage of the SuSe Linux
                                install in native mode or in guest mode.

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:51 AM
                                To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                Yes I was able to find the 3.0 beta for free and downloaded it. Everything
                                went smoothly except I can't seem to get it to boot from the virtual hard
                                drive (VHD). Anyone else run in to this? I've tried changing the boot
                                settings in bios. I've formatted the VHD with Win98 and sys'd it. No good,
                                I Ghosted my Win image on it, no good, I installed Win98 from CD and no good
                                :( In all cases it runs bios and searches for drives and then tried to boot
                                floppy and the screen blanks and it freezes.

                                Steve

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Jimmy Chen [mailto:chen_jimmy_99@...]
                                Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:38 AM
                                To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                It's an awesome product for the linux environment, it's worth the
                                money. I have been used it since version 1.0. It rocks!!

                                --- jsc3@... wrote:
                                > Yes, they offer a 30 day evaluation. There is also a VMware
                                > Workstation
                                > 3.0 Beta available, and it is in the final phases of the beta test.
                                > I
                                > have been using VMware 2.0 for Linux since February, and overall I am
                                > pleased. I have been running Win98SE but I plan to run Win2K when I
                                > do my machine rebuild in the near future (Redhat 7.2, add second
                                > disk,
                                > Windows 2000 instead of Windows ME, use ext3 and reiserfs, get
                                > Firewire
                                > working, etc). And no, you can't have my copy, it is worth the $299
                                > I paid for it, and I have already paid for my upgrade to 3.0.
                                >
                                > > -----Original Message-----
                                > > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:19 AM
                                > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] Winmodem and RH7.2
                                > >
                                > > Speaking of VMWare, has anyone seen where they offer a trial run of
                                > the
                                > > workstation versio nI beleive it is? I would love to use this
                                > program with
                                > > Win98 but want to try it out first and least time I checked they
                                > didn't
                                > > offer it as a trial version. Alternatively anyone selling a copy
                                > they no
                                > > longer use? Email me privately.
                                > >
                                > > Steve
                                >
                                > --
                                > John Cronin
                                > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                                >


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                              • jsc3@havoc.gtf.org
                                ... I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while ago when I did the
                                Message 15 of 26 , Oct 30, 2001
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                                  > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow to
                                  > point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably
                                  > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by this you
                                  > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what I've been
                                  > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your right
                                  > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.

                                  I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                  VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                  ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                  screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                  I installed on a virtual disk.

                                  --
                                  John Cronin
                                  mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                                • McDonnell, Stephen
                                  Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed towards my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the 25 minutes of
                                  Message 16 of 26 , Nov 1, 2001
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                                    Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed towards
                                    my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the 25
                                    minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play some more on lunch and
                                    install the tools for more fun :)

                                    Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games in VMWare? I haven't
                                    tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I mean things like
                                    Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can do this I'll smoke the
                                    dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is there a way to allocate
                                    more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd take a hit in Linux
                                    performance to have VMWare faster.

                                    Steve

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                    Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                    To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                    > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow
                                    to
                                    > point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably
                                    > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by this you
                                    > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what I've
                                    been
                                    > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your right
                                    > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.

                                    I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                    VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                    ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                    screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                    I installed on a virtual disk.

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                                  • McDonnell, Stephen
                                    Well I played a little with this on my lunch. For some reason2 weird things are happening. 1. VMWare tells me the Win98 partition is no longer valid when I
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                                      Well I played a little with this on my lunch. For some reason2 weird things
                                      are happening. 1. VMWare tells me the Win98 partition is no longer valid
                                      when I reboot (/mnt/dev/Windows/ aka hda1) 2. When I installed the power
                                      tools I can't force the VMWare tools video card, anyone else get this
                                      working? Do I need to delete the VGA default one and come in through safe
                                      mode to push this driver through? I also was wondering how I can recover
                                      the space I allocated for the virtual disk i.e. uninstall a VMWare OS's.

                                      Thanks all.
                                      Steve

                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                      Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                      To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                      Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                      Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed towards
                                      my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the 25
                                      minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play some more on lunch and
                                      install the tools for more fun :)

                                      Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games in VMWare? I haven't
                                      tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I mean things like
                                      Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can do this I'll smoke the
                                      dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is there a way to allocate
                                      more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd take a hit in Linux
                                      performance to have VMWare faster.

                                      Steve

                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                      Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                      To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                      > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow
                                      to
                                      > point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably
                                      > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by this you
                                      > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what I've
                                      been
                                      > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your right
                                      > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.

                                      I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                      VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                      ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                      screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                      I installed on a virtual disk.

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                                    • Jason Jarrar
                                      Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up amazed how well x and linux is running as a guest under W2K. The most important part is that I setup Linux as a
                                      Message 18 of 26 , Nov 1, 2001
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                                        Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up amazed how well x and linux
                                        is running as a guest under W2K. The most important part is that I setup
                                        Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or as a guest OS. The nice
                                        part about the Guest OS is that it actually works with all the hardware I
                                        have including my wireless lynksys card, my internal card. my touch pad and
                                        external mouse. I am not final on were I am going but at this point if I
                                        need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as Guest. Who knows after I get
                                        SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the little hardware problems I
                                        might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and it is worth every penny.
                                        lol when I get a job again I might get both the window and linux host :)
                                        just to have all the options. For now I just paid for the window host.

                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                        Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                        To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                        Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                        Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed towards
                                        my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the 25
                                        minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play some more on lunch and
                                        install the tools for more fun :)

                                        Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games in VMWare? I haven't
                                        tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I mean things like
                                        Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can do this I'll smoke the
                                        dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is there a way to allocate
                                        more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd take a hit in Linux
                                        performance to have VMWare faster.

                                        Steve

                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                        Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                        To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                        > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow
                                        to
                                        > point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably
                                        > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by this you
                                        > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what I've
                                        been
                                        > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your right
                                        > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.

                                        I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                        VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                        ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                        screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                        I installed on a virtual disk.

                                        --
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                                      • michael carr
                                        VMware lets you run linux on top of windows and not just the other way around? how do things like network ports work? i would love to run 2k for development of
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                                          VMware lets you run linux on top of windows and not just the other way
                                          around? how do things like network ports work? i would love to run 2k
                                          for development of php scripts, and upload them to the linux version
                                          running on the same box, and then view them from the linux webserver
                                          running apache+php+mysql?

                                          mikey >;)

                                          --- Jason Jarrar <jjarrar@...> wrote:
                                          > Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up amazed how well x and
                                          > linux
                                          > is running as a guest under W2K. The most important part is that I
                                          > setup
                                          > Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or as a guest OS. The
                                          > nice
                                          > part about the Guest OS is that it actually works with all the
                                          > hardware I
                                          > have including my wireless lynksys card, my internal card. my touch
                                          > pad and
                                          > external mouse. I am not final on were I am going but at this point
                                          > if I
                                          > need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as Guest. Who knows after
                                          > I get
                                          > SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the little hardware
                                          > problems I
                                          > might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and it is worth every
                                          > penny.
                                          > lol when I get a job again I might get both the window and linux host
                                          > :)
                                          > just to have all the options. For now I just paid for the window
                                          > host.
                                          >
                                          > -----Original Message-----
                                          > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                          > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                          > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                          > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed
                                          > towards
                                          > my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the
                                          > 25
                                          > minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play some more on
                                          > lunch and
                                          > install the tools for more fun :)
                                          >
                                          > Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games in VMWare? I
                                          > haven't
                                          > tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I mean things like
                                          > Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can do this I'll
                                          > smoke the
                                          > dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is there a way to
                                          > allocate
                                          > more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd take a hit in
                                          > Linux
                                          > performance to have VMWare faster.
                                          >
                                          > Steve
                                          >
                                          > -----Original Message-----
                                          > From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                          > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                          > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                          > Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios
                                          > somehow
                                          > to
                                          > > point to this existing partition? If I could that would
                                          > unbelievably
                                          > > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by
                                          > this you
                                          > > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what
                                          > I've
                                          > been
                                          > > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your
                                          > right
                                          > > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.
                                          >
                                          > I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                          > VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                          > ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                          > screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                          > I installed on a virtual disk.
                                          >
                                          > --
                                          > John Cronin
                                          > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
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                                        • Jason Jarrar
                                          I know I have run it both ways, the fun part of running under windows so that no matter what network card you have it works under linux as the same card,
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                                            I know I have run it both ways, the fun part of running under windows so
                                            that no matter what network card you have it works under linux as the same
                                            card, VMWare does the real networking and pass it to the same driver under
                                            linux, This way I can even run hardware that now is still not working under
                                            linux.

                                            -----Original Message-----
                                            From: michael carr [mailto:pweiproduct@...]
                                            Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:59 PM
                                            To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                            VMware lets you run linux on top of windows and not just the other way
                                            around? how do things like network ports work? i would love to run 2k
                                            for development of php scripts, and upload them to the linux version
                                            running on the same box, and then view them from the linux webserver
                                            running apache+php+mysql?

                                            mikey >;)

                                            --- Jason Jarrar <jjarrar@...> wrote:
                                            > Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up amazed how well x and
                                            > linux
                                            > is running as a guest under W2K. The most important part is that I
                                            > setup
                                            > Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or as a guest OS. The
                                            > nice
                                            > part about the Guest OS is that it actually works with all the
                                            > hardware I
                                            > have including my wireless lynksys card, my internal card. my touch
                                            > pad and
                                            > external mouse. I am not final on were I am going but at this point
                                            > if I
                                            > need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as Guest. Who knows after
                                            > I get
                                            > SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the little hardware
                                            > problems I
                                            > might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and it is worth every
                                            > penny.
                                            > lol when I get a job again I might get both the window and linux host
                                            > :)
                                            > just to have all the options. For now I just paid for the window
                                            > host.
                                            >
                                            > -----Original Message-----
                                            > From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                            > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                            > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                            > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed
                                            > towards
                                            > my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the
                                            > 25
                                            > minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play some more on
                                            > lunch and
                                            > install the tools for more fun :)
                                            >
                                            > Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games in VMWare? I
                                            > haven't
                                            > tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I mean things like
                                            > Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can do this I'll
                                            > smoke the
                                            > dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is there a way to
                                            > allocate
                                            > more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd take a hit in
                                            > Linux
                                            > performance to have VMWare faster.
                                            >
                                            > Steve
                                            >
                                            > -----Original Message-----
                                            > From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                            > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                            > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                            > Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios
                                            > somehow
                                            > to
                                            > > point to this existing partition? If I could that would
                                            > unbelievably
                                            > > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by
                                            > this you
                                            > > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what
                                            > I've
                                            > been
                                            > > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your
                                            > right
                                            > > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.
                                            >
                                            > I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                            > VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                            > ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                            > screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                            > I installed on a virtual disk.
                                            >
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                                          • McDonnell, Stephen
                                            Are there people on this board with a 5000e with the 16m ATI that have gotten the VMWare tools to successfully work? I installed the power tools after I got
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                                              Are there people on this board with a 5000e with the 16m ATI that have
                                              gotten the VMWare tools to successfully work? I installed the power tools
                                              after I got VMWare up and running it hosed up everything sooo bad in windows
                                              I had to re-image the windows. For some reason the mouse died, both the
                                              internal and the ps2 external, the video crapped out telling me I can't use
                                              the VMWare one, everytime I boot windows it finds new irda/memory
                                              controllers/com ports/printer ports/ etc etc for the life of me I could not
                                              get the mouse working again. I uninstalled the power tools and tried
                                              reinstalling the mouse and everytime the only one it would find is the
                                              VMWare mouse.

                                              Conversely, has anyone used Winxp in Linux or vise versa? I'm going out
                                              hopefully on lunch and picking up XP (re actually paying money for an OS,
                                              cringe).

                                              Steve

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:jjarrar@...]
                                              Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:53 PM
                                              To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                              Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up amazed how well x and linux
                                              is running as a guest under W2K. The most important part is that I setup
                                              Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or as a guest OS. The nice
                                              part about the Guest OS is that it actually works with all the hardware I
                                              have including my wireless lynksys card, my internal card. my touch pad and
                                              external mouse. I am not final on were I am going but at this point if I
                                              need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as Guest. Who knows after I get
                                              SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the little hardware problems I
                                              might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and it is worth every penny.
                                              lol when I get a job again I might get both the window and linux host :)
                                              just to have all the options. For now I just paid for the window host.

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: McDonnell, Stephen [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                              Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                              To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                              Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                              Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard again and pointed towards
                                              my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm so far sans the 25
                                              minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play some more on lunch and
                                              install the tools for more fun :)

                                              Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games in VMWare? I haven't
                                              tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I mean things like
                                              Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can do this I'll smoke the
                                              dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is there a way to allocate
                                              more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd take a hit in Linux
                                              performance to have VMWare faster.

                                              Steve

                                              -----Original Message-----
                                              From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                              Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                              To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                              > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can direct the bios somehow
                                              to
                                              > point to this existing partition? If I could that would unbelievably
                                              > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first suggestion, by this you
                                              > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard drive? That's what I've
                                              been
                                              > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I do believe your right
                                              > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing that.

                                              I am not sure what problems you are having. I had NO problems with
                                              VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE. It was a while
                                              ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA working in full
                                              screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it five days a week.
                                              I installed on a virtual disk.

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                                            • Jason Jarrar
                                              Stephan Under Linux I did not dare use my main W2K. I just installed a new W2K guest under a virtual drive. It worked and it did not interfer with my main W2K
                                              Message 22 of 26 , Nov 2, 2001
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                                                Stephan

                                                Under Linux I did not dare use my main W2K. I just
                                                installed a new W2K guest under a virtual drive. It
                                                worked and it did not interfer with my main W2K
                                                install. As I said before, For now I prefer running it
                                                theother way around with W2K as host and Linux as
                                                guest. I am using SuSe 7.2 while waiting for 7.3 I
                                                gave up on Red Hat mainly as an objection to what they
                                                just did. They removed the product i just bought which
                                                is the delux worksation , renamed it to their pro
                                                product and raised the price from $79 to $199. I think
                                                that is not a fair price for packaging. so I got an
                                                rma and I am returning it to them. SuSe seem to work
                                                better with vmware and with my laptop and has more
                                                things in their 7.3 pro for $79 than Red Hat.

                                                --- "McDonnell, Stephen" <SMcDonnell@...>
                                                wrote:
                                                > Are there people on this board with a 5000e with the
                                                > 16m ATI that have
                                                > gotten the VMWare tools to successfully work? I
                                                > installed the power tools
                                                > after I got VMWare up and running it hosed up
                                                > everything sooo bad in windows
                                                > I had to re-image the windows. For some reason the
                                                > mouse died, both the
                                                > internal and the ps2 external, the video crapped out
                                                > telling me I can't use
                                                > the VMWare one, everytime I boot windows it finds
                                                > new irda/memory
                                                > controllers/com ports/printer ports/ etc etc for the
                                                > life of me I could not
                                                > get the mouse working again. I uninstalled the
                                                > power tools and tried
                                                > reinstalling the mouse and everytime the only one it
                                                > would find is the
                                                > VMWare mouse.
                                                >
                                                > Conversely, has anyone used Winxp in Linux or vise
                                                > versa? I'm going out
                                                > hopefully on lunch and picking up XP (re actually
                                                > paying money for an OS,
                                                > cringe).
                                                >
                                                > Steve
                                                >
                                                > -----Original Message-----
                                                > From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:jjarrar@...]
                                                > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:53 PM
                                                > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up
                                                > amazed how well x and linux
                                                > is running as a guest under W2K. The most important
                                                > part is that I setup
                                                > Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or
                                                > as a guest OS. The nice
                                                > part about the Guest OS is that it actually works
                                                > with all the hardware I
                                                > have including my wireless lynksys card, my internal
                                                > card. my touch pad and
                                                > external mouse. I am not final on were I am going
                                                > but at this point if I
                                                > need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as
                                                > Guest. Who knows after I get
                                                > SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the little
                                                > hardware problems I
                                                > might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and it
                                                > is worth every penny.
                                                > lol when I get a job again I might get both the
                                                > window and linux host :)
                                                > just to have all the options. For now I just paid
                                                > for the window host.
                                                >
                                                > -----Original Message-----
                                                > From: McDonnell, Stephen
                                                > [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                                > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                                > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                                > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard
                                                > again and pointed towards
                                                > my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm
                                                > so far sans the 25
                                                > minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play
                                                > some more on lunch and
                                                > install the tools for more fun :)
                                                >
                                                > Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games
                                                > in VMWare? I haven't
                                                > tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I
                                                > mean things like
                                                > Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can
                                                > do this I'll smoke the
                                                > dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is
                                                > there a way to allocate
                                                > more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd
                                                > take a hit in Linux
                                                > performance to have VMWare faster.
                                                >
                                                > Steve
                                                >
                                                > -----Original Message-----
                                                > From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                                > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                                > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can
                                                > direct the bios somehow
                                                > to
                                                > > point to this existing partition? If I could that
                                                > would unbelievably
                                                > > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first
                                                > suggestion, by this you
                                                > > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard
                                                > drive? That's what I've
                                                > been
                                                > > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I
                                                > do believe your right
                                                > > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing
                                                > that.
                                                >
                                                > I am not sure what problems you are having. I had
                                                > NO problems with
                                                > VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE.
                                                > It was a while
                                                > ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA
                                                > working in full
                                                > screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it
                                                > five days a week.
                                                > I installed on a virtual disk.
                                                >
                                                > --
                                                > John Cronin
                                                > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed
                                                > 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
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                                              • michael carr
                                                anyone here played with win2k + slackware with vmware? if so which way did you do it: win2k host & slackware guest or slackware host & win2k guest? mikey ;)
                                                Message 23 of 26 , Nov 2, 2001
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                                                  anyone here played with win2k + slackware with vmware? if so which way
                                                  did you do it: win2k host & slackware guest or slackware host & win2k
                                                  guest?

                                                  mikey >;)

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                                                • Jason Jarrar
                                                  check my past posts. I chosr to have W2K as host, you can them use linux slackware, redhat, or SuSe or any other as guest. Doing it this way I can use exostic
                                                  Message 24 of 26 , Nov 2, 2001
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                                                    check my past posts. I chosr to have W2K as host, you
                                                    can them use linux slackware, redhat, or SuSe or any
                                                    other as guest. Doing it this way I can use exostic
                                                    drivers that are readily avalaible under windows but
                                                    take alot of work ot get working undr linux. My Linux
                                                    partition is dual booted. I can boot it under window
                                                    as a guest, or I can boot it from lilo on its own. to
                                                    do so you need to use raw disks instead of the virtual
                                                    disk. Vmware will switch the configuration files from
                                                    virtual machine to real drivers as you boot based on
                                                    if it is main boot or guest boot under vmware.
                                                    I have it running with my wirelss modem, I am typing
                                                    this letter while sitting outside under a tree. I also
                                                    got the xdisplay at 1600x1200. It is a little slower
                                                    than running in native mode, but it is fine for what I
                                                    need and I can always run in native mode when the need
                                                    arise. VMWare will pass any of your nic drivers as an
                                                    AMD network card that is easily detected under SuSe.
                                                    Not sure about Slack. the x driver is an SVGA VMWare
                                                    driver.
                                                    --- michael carr <pweiproduct@...> wrote:
                                                    > anyone here played with win2k + slackware with
                                                    > vmware? if so which way
                                                    > did you do it: win2k host & slackware guest or
                                                    > slackware host & win2k
                                                    > guest?
                                                    >
                                                    > mikey >;)
                                                    >
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                                                  • McDonnell, Stephen
                                                    Good afternoon, thanks for the reply on Friday to my question. So how were you able to actually get the video running in full size on your W2k guest? Mine
                                                    Message 25 of 26 , Nov 5, 2001
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                                                      Good afternoon, thanks for the reply on Friday to my question. So how were
                                                      you able to actually get the video running in full size on your W2k guest?
                                                      Mine simply puked when VMWare tried to take over and wouldn't let me install
                                                      the default drivers again. Like the how to said to during install.

                                                      Thanks!
                                                      Steve

                                                      -----Original Message-----
                                                      From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:dheyokah@...]
                                                      Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:54 PM
                                                      To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare


                                                      Stephan

                                                      Under Linux I did not dare use my main W2K. I just
                                                      installed a new W2K guest under a virtual drive. It
                                                      worked and it did not interfer with my main W2K
                                                      install. As I said before, For now I prefer running it
                                                      theother way around with W2K as host and Linux as
                                                      guest. I am using SuSe 7.2 while waiting for 7.3 I
                                                      gave up on Red Hat mainly as an objection to what they
                                                      just did. They removed the product i just bought which
                                                      is the delux worksation , renamed it to their pro
                                                      product and raised the price from $79 to $199. I think
                                                      that is not a fair price for packaging. so I got an
                                                      rma and I am returning it to them. SuSe seem to work
                                                      better with vmware and with my laptop and has more
                                                      things in their 7.3 pro for $79 than Red Hat.

                                                      --- "McDonnell, Stephen" <SMcDonnell@...>
                                                      wrote:
                                                      > Are there people on this board with a 5000e with the
                                                      > 16m ATI that have
                                                      > gotten the VMWare tools to successfully work? I
                                                      > installed the power tools
                                                      > after I got VMWare up and running it hosed up
                                                      > everything sooo bad in windows
                                                      > I had to re-image the windows. For some reason the
                                                      > mouse died, both the
                                                      > internal and the ps2 external, the video crapped out
                                                      > telling me I can't use
                                                      > the VMWare one, everytime I boot windows it finds
                                                      > new irda/memory
                                                      > controllers/com ports/printer ports/ etc etc for the
                                                      > life of me I could not
                                                      > get the mouse working again. I uninstalled the
                                                      > power tools and tried
                                                      > reinstalling the mouse and everytime the only one it
                                                      > would find is the
                                                      > VMWare mouse.
                                                      >
                                                      > Conversely, has anyone used Winxp in Linux or vise
                                                      > versa? I'm going out
                                                      > hopefully on lunch and picking up XP (re actually
                                                      > paying money for an OS,
                                                      > cringe).
                                                      >
                                                      > Steve
                                                      >
                                                      > -----Original Message-----
                                                      > From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:jjarrar@...]
                                                      > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:53 PM
                                                      > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                      > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up
                                                      > amazed how well x and linux
                                                      > is running as a guest under W2K. The most important
                                                      > part is that I setup
                                                      > Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or
                                                      > as a guest OS. The nice
                                                      > part about the Guest OS is that it actually works
                                                      > with all the hardware I
                                                      > have including my wireless lynksys card, my internal
                                                      > card. my touch pad and
                                                      > external mouse. I am not final on were I am going
                                                      > but at this point if I
                                                      > need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as
                                                      > Guest. Who knows after I get
                                                      > SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the little
                                                      > hardware problems I
                                                      > might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and it
                                                      > is worth every penny.
                                                      > lol when I get a job again I might get both the
                                                      > window and linux host :)
                                                      > just to have all the options. For now I just paid
                                                      > for the window host.
                                                      >
                                                      > -----Original Message-----
                                                      > From: McDonnell, Stephen
                                                      > [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                                      > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                                      > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                                      > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard
                                                      > again and pointed towards
                                                      > my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a charm
                                                      > so far sans the 25
                                                      > minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll play
                                                      > some more on lunch and
                                                      > install the tools for more fun :)
                                                      >
                                                      > Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games
                                                      > in VMWare? I haven't
                                                      > tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games I
                                                      > mean things like
                                                      > Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I can
                                                      > do this I'll smoke the
                                                      > dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also is
                                                      > there a way to allocate
                                                      > more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some. I'd
                                                      > take a hit in Linux
                                                      > performance to have VMWare faster.
                                                      >
                                                      > Steve
                                                      >
                                                      > -----Original Message-----
                                                      > From: jsc3@... [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                                      > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                                      > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                      > Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can
                                                      > direct the bios somehow
                                                      > to
                                                      > > point to this existing partition? If I could that
                                                      > would unbelievably
                                                      > > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your first
                                                      > suggestion, by this you
                                                      > > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard
                                                      > drive? That's what I've
                                                      > been
                                                      > > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :( I
                                                      > do believe your right
                                                      > > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember seeing
                                                      > that.
                                                      >
                                                      > I am not sure what problems you are having. I had
                                                      > NO problems with
                                                      > VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE.
                                                      > It was a while
                                                      > ago when I did the install, and I never did get DGA
                                                      > working in full
                                                      > screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it
                                                      > five days a week.
                                                      > I installed on a virtual disk.
                                                      >
                                                      > --
                                                      > John Cronin
                                                      > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed
                                                      > 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      >
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                                                    • Jason Jarrar
                                                      to terll you the truth Steve I do not remember, I deleted the red hat stuff and waiting for SuSe 7.3 before I play with the linux host, since Linux X--window
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                                                        to terll you the truth Steve I do not remember, I
                                                        deleted the red hat stuff and waiting for SuSe 7.3
                                                        before I play with the linux host, since Linux
                                                        X--window setup almost caused me to lose my LCD. Sure
                                                        it is something I did, but gona wait for the new
                                                        release before I get Linux host running. For now just
                                                        running under W2K.

                                                        --- "McDonnell, Stephen" <SMcDonnell@...>
                                                        wrote:
                                                        > Good afternoon, thanks for the reply on Friday to my
                                                        > question. So how were
                                                        > you able to actually get the video running in full
                                                        > size on your W2k guest?
                                                        > Mine simply puked when VMWare tried to take over and
                                                        > wouldn't let me install
                                                        > the default drivers again. Like the how to said to
                                                        > during install.
                                                        >
                                                        > Thanks!
                                                        > Steve
                                                        >
                                                        > -----Original Message-----
                                                        > From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:dheyokah@...]
                                                        > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:54 PM
                                                        > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                        >
                                                        >
                                                        > Stephan
                                                        >
                                                        > Under Linux I did not dare use my main W2K. I just
                                                        > installed a new W2K guest under a virtual drive. It
                                                        > worked and it did not interfer with my main W2K
                                                        > install. As I said before, For now I prefer running
                                                        > it
                                                        > theother way around with W2K as host and Linux as
                                                        > guest. I am using SuSe 7.2 while waiting for 7.3 I
                                                        > gave up on Red Hat mainly as an objection to what
                                                        > they
                                                        > just did. They removed the product i just bought
                                                        > which
                                                        > is the delux worksation , renamed it to their pro
                                                        > product and raised the price from $79 to $199. I
                                                        > think
                                                        > that is not a fair price for packaging. so I got an
                                                        > rma and I am returning it to them. SuSe seem to work
                                                        > better with vmware and with my laptop and has more
                                                        > things in their 7.3 pro for $79 than Red Hat.
                                                        >
                                                        > --- "McDonnell, Stephen" <SMcDonnell@...>
                                                        > wrote:
                                                        > > Are there people on this board with a 5000e with
                                                        > the
                                                        > > 16m ATI that have
                                                        > > gotten the VMWare tools to successfully work? I
                                                        > > installed the power tools
                                                        > > after I got VMWare up and running it hosed up
                                                        > > everything sooo bad in windows
                                                        > > I had to re-image the windows. For some reason
                                                        > the
                                                        > > mouse died, both the
                                                        > > internal and the ps2 external, the video crapped
                                                        > out
                                                        > > telling me I can't use
                                                        > > the VMWare one, everytime I boot windows it finds
                                                        > > new irda/memory
                                                        > > controllers/com ports/printer ports/ etc etc for
                                                        > the
                                                        > > life of me I could not
                                                        > > get the mouse working again. I uninstalled the
                                                        > > power tools and tried
                                                        > > reinstalling the mouse and everytime the only one
                                                        > it
                                                        > > would find is the
                                                        > > VMWare mouse.
                                                        > >
                                                        > > Conversely, has anyone used Winxp in Linux or vise
                                                        > > versa? I'm going out
                                                        > > hopefully on lunch and picking up XP (re actually
                                                        > > paying money for an OS,
                                                        > > cringe).
                                                        > >
                                                        > > Steve
                                                        > >
                                                        > > -----Original Message-----
                                                        > > From: Jason Jarrar [mailto:jjarrar@...]
                                                        > > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 6:53 PM
                                                        > > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > Well, I was evaluating both sides, but ended up
                                                        > > amazed how well x and linux
                                                        > > is running as a guest under W2K. The most
                                                        > important
                                                        > > part is that I setup
                                                        > > Linux as a dual boot so I can boot it by itself or
                                                        > > as a guest OS. The nice
                                                        > > part about the Guest OS is that it actually works
                                                        > > with all the hardware I
                                                        > > have including my wireless lynksys card, my
                                                        > internal
                                                        > > card. my touch pad and
                                                        > > external mouse. I am not final on were I am going
                                                        > > but at this point if I
                                                        > > need both I am gona be on W2K running Linux as
                                                        > > Guest. Who knows after I get
                                                        > > SuSe 7.3 with more driver support and fix the
                                                        > little
                                                        > > hardware problems I
                                                        > > might try it the other way. I do love VMWare and
                                                        > it
                                                        > > is worth every penny.
                                                        > > lol when I get a job again I might get both the
                                                        > > window and linux host :)
                                                        > > just to have all the options. For now I just paid
                                                        > > for the window host.
                                                        > >
                                                        > > -----Original Message-----
                                                        > > From: McDonnell, Stephen
                                                        > > [mailto:SMcDonnell@...]
                                                        > > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:29 AM
                                                        > > To: 'linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com'
                                                        > > Subject: RE: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > Well I figured it out somewhat, I used the wizard
                                                        > > again and pointed towards
                                                        > > my existing hda1 i.e. windows98. Works like a
                                                        > charm
                                                        > > so far sans the 25
                                                        > > minutes of drivers detecting and loading. I'll
                                                        > play
                                                        > > some more on lunch and
                                                        > > install the tools for more fun :)
                                                        > >
                                                        > > Has anyone found ways to utilize things like games
                                                        > > in VMWare? I haven't
                                                        > > tried yet but I assume they won't work. By games
                                                        > I
                                                        > > mean things like
                                                        > > Everquest and other glide dependant games. If I
                                                        > can
                                                        > > do this I'll smoke the
                                                        > > dual boot setup and live from Linux/VMWare. Also
                                                        > is
                                                        > > there a way to allocate
                                                        > > more resources to VMWare i.e. speed it up some.
                                                        > I'd
                                                        > > take a hit in Linux
                                                        > > performance to have VMWare faster.
                                                        > >
                                                        > > Steve
                                                        > >
                                                        > > -----Original Message-----
                                                        > > From: jsc3@...
                                                        > [mailto:jsc3@...]
                                                        > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:32 AM
                                                        > > To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > > Subject: Re: [Linux-dell-laptops] VMWare
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > > I currently dual boot Win98 are you saying I can
                                                        > > direct the bios somehow
                                                        > > to
                                                        > > > point to this existing partition? If I could
                                                        > that
                                                        > > would unbelievably
                                                        > > > awesome, crosses fingers. Referencing your
                                                        > first
                                                        > > suggestion, by this you
                                                        > > > mean simply install my OS on the virtual hard
                                                        > > drive? That's what I've
                                                        > > been
                                                        > > > trying to do but it just won't boot from it :(
                                                        > I
                                                        > > do believe your right
                                                        > > > about the VHD being SD1 I seem to remember
                                                        > seeing
                                                        > > that.
                                                        > >
                                                        > > I am not sure what problems you are having. I had
                                                        > > NO problems with
                                                        > > VMware 2.0.X on 2.2.X kernel running Windows 98SE.
                                                        >
                                                        > > It was a while
                                                        > > ago when I did the install, and I never did get
                                                        > DGA
                                                        > > working in full
                                                        > > screen mode, but everything else is fine, I use it
                                                        > > five days a week.
                                                        > > I installed on a virtual disk.
                                                        > >
                                                        > > --
                                                        > > John Cronin
                                                        > > mailto: `echo NjsOc3@... | sed
                                                        > > 's/[NOSPAM]//g'`
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
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