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  • Nat Kealen
    Hello All,I m getting ready to reformat my laptop (I thought about resizing the partition, but W2K roaming users is cool) and dual boot it with W2K and some
    Message 1 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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      Hello All,

      I'm getting ready to reformat my laptop (I thought about resizing the
      partition, but W2K roaming users is cool) and dual boot it with W2K and some
      Linux distro (I haven't decided yet).

      I'm trying to set up the partition scheme. Basically, I've got a 10 GB
      drive and I'm going to divide it in half. However, I want both OSes to see
      about 1GB of the same information. What type of partition is that supposed
      to be? FAT16? It'll basically be used for sharing MP3s, videos, and some
      docs as well.

      4.5 W2K
      4.5 linux
      1 both

      My choices of distros are: Redhat 6.1, Redhat 7.1, Debian 2.2r2, Mandrake
      7.1, and Slackware 7.1

      I have experience with all of them except Slackware and RH7.1.

      Nat Kealen
      Computer Specialist
      Quincy Newspapers, Inc.


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    • ccaper@hotmail.com
      ... supposed ... and some ... Use VFAT32 (Win 95 and Win 98 filesystem). Its a little faster than FAT16, and both W2K AND Linux can read/write to it. ...
      Message 2 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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        > However, I want both OSes to see
        > about 1GB of the same information. What type of partition is that
        supposed
        > to be? FAT16? It'll basically be used for sharing MP3s, videos,
        and some
        > docs as well.

        Use VFAT32 (Win 95 and Win 98 filesystem). Its a little faster than
        FAT16, and both W2K AND Linux can read/write to it.


        > My choices of distros are: Redhat 6.1, Redhat 7.1, Debian 2.2r2,
        Mandrake
        > 7.1, and Slackware 7.1
        >
        > I have experience with all of them except Slackware and RH7.1.


        I just installed both RH7.1 and Mandrake 8.0. Both installed like a
        champ, and recognized EVERYTHING properly on my Lat C600. Decided to
        keep RH 7.1, but only because I have been using RH on other machines
        and I didn't want to begin maintain updated RPM's for mulitple
        distros. But if you go with Mandrake, I would highly suggest 8.0
        over 7.1.
        -minnow
      • Mark Cuss
        Hi! I set up a couple of dual boot I8000 Laptops. I would recommend a FAT32 partition for your shared space, as both W2K and Linux can read this, and it is
        Message 3 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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          Hi!

          I set up a couple of dual boot I8000 Laptops.

          I would recommend a FAT32 partition for your "shared" space, as both W2K and
          Linux can read this, and it is more efficient than FAT16. Also, be aware
          that W2K is very picky - is must own the MBR, so LiLo must reside in the
          your root linux partition. Instructions on how to configure the W2K boot
          loader can be found on the web, but it basically consists of copying the
          lilo MBR from the root of your linux disk onto a floppy, loading W2K and
          copying this file onto your W2K partition and then configuring the
          bootloader to start lilo from this file when you choose Linux at the menu.

          Good Luck!

          Mark


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Nat Kealen" <agentgray@...>
          To: <linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:08 AM
          Subject: [linux-dell-laptops] W2K/linux on Latitude LS


          > Hello All,
          >
          > I'm getting ready to reformat my laptop (I thought about resizing the
          > partition, but W2K roaming users is cool) and dual boot it with W2K and
          some
          > Linux distro (I haven't decided yet).
          >
          > I'm trying to set up the partition scheme. Basically, I've got a 10 GB
          > drive and I'm going to divide it in half. However, I want both OSes to
          see
          > about 1GB of the same information. What type of partition is that
          supposed
          > to be? FAT16? It'll basically be used for sharing MP3s, videos, and some
          > docs as well.
          >
          > 4.5 W2K
          > 4.5 linux
          > 1 both
          >
          > My choices of distros are: Redhat 6.1, Redhat 7.1, Debian 2.2r2, Mandrake
          > 7.1, and Slackware 7.1
          >
          > I have experience with all of them except Slackware and RH7.1.
          >
          > Nat Kealen
          > Computer Specialist
          > Quincy Newspapers, Inc.
          >
          >
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        • David Rodriguez
          ... Not really. I have read this somewhere before, but the fact is that in my system lilo is in the mbr and windows is in the beginning of it s own partition.
          Message 4 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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            > Also, be aware
            >that W2K is very picky - is must own the MBR, so LiLo must reside in the
            >your root linux partition.

            Not really. I have read this somewhere before, but the fact is that in
            my system lilo is in the mbr and windows is in the beginning of it's own
            partition. Also in my system th BIOS figures if I suspended to disk and boots
            it (Inspiron 5000e), but some people have reported that if lilo is in the
            mbr they have to manually choose that they want to resume from disk. That
            is: the BIOS and suspend to disk is/can be more picky than windows. This
            seems as a better reason not to have lilo in the mbr.

            That is, even if Windows does not seem to care that much, it can be
            interesting not having lilo in the mbr. Then deciding which is the bootable
            partition (windows/linux) is a matter of taste.

            David

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          • ccaper@hotmail.com
            Also, be aware ... in the ... I have installed two computers in the last week as dual boot Linux/W2K machines. Both systems had Lilo installed on the MBR, and
            Message 5 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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              Also, be aware
              > that W2K is very picky - is must own the MBR, so LiLo must reside
              in the
              > your root linux partition.

              I have installed two computers in the last week as dual boot
              Linux/W2K machines. Both systems had Lilo installed on the MBR, and
              both worked fine. This was done in both Mandrake 8.0 and RH 7.1, on
              a Dell Latitude C600 and a Desktop I built myself. W2K, does not
              have to own the MBR; however, it will overwrite the MBR when
              installed. So, either install linux after installing W2K, or have a
              boot disk handy so you can boot into linux and fix lilo after W2K
              install overwrites MBR.
              -minnow
            • Mark Cuss
              Really? Mmmmm - that is wierd - Even after I installed W2K and then Linux with Lilo in the MBR and rebooted, Windows loaded anyways - it was like it never even
              Message 6 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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                Really?

                Mmmmm - that is wierd - Even after I installed W2K and then Linux with Lilo
                in the MBR and rebooted, Windows loaded anyways - it was like it never even
                wrote it into the MBR - perhaps I was doing something wrong. So, I just
                used the W2K bootloader....

                Mark

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: <ccaper@...>
                To: <linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:09 PM
                Subject: [linux-dell-laptops] Re: W2K/linux on Latitude LS


                > Also, be aware
                > > that W2K is very picky - is must own the MBR, so LiLo must reside
                > in the
                > > your root linux partition.
                >
                > I have installed two computers in the last week as dual boot
                > Linux/W2K machines. Both systems had Lilo installed on the MBR, and
                > both worked fine. This was done in both Mandrake 8.0 and RH 7.1, on
                > a Dell Latitude C600 and a Desktop I built myself. W2K, does not
                > have to own the MBR; however, it will overwrite the MBR when
                > installed. So, either install linux after installing W2K, or have a
                > boot disk handy so you can boot into linux and fix lilo after W2K
                > install overwrites MBR.
                > -minnow
                >
                >
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                >
              • Nat Kealen
                Well, I went with RH7.1 and everything worked fine, including X. I did have some problems.However, I get hda irq timeouts on bootup and it does this about
                Message 7 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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                  Well, I went with RH7.1 and everything worked fine, including X. I did have
                  some problems.

                  However, I get hda irq timeouts on bootup and it does this about four or
                  five times until it recognizes something and then goes on.

                  Plus, my eth0 interface is not working. It almost acts like its starting
                  and stopping. I cannot ping anything. I get this dump on my screen every
                  30 seconds or so:

                  eth0: transmit timed out, t.....blah, blah blah for about 15 lines of text.

                  Did I mention I was using a Latitude LS? I've got a lucent modem, so I know
                  I shouldn't have any major problems getting that to work later.

                  I can live without sound for now. Configuring it is gonna be a female
                  dog....The Neomagic chipsets share RAM for video and sound.

                  After the initial install reboot, the laptop only recognized linux. Lilo
                  didn't even have W2K listed. Where can I cange that at? A lilo.conf
                  somewhere?

                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: <ccaper@...>
                  To: <linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com>
                  Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:20 AM
                  Subject: [linux-dell-laptops] Re: W2K/linux on Latitude LS


                  > > However, I want both OSes to see
                  > > about 1GB of the same information. What type of partition is that
                  > supposed
                  > > to be? FAT16? It'll basically be used for sharing MP3s, videos,
                  > and some
                  > > docs as well.
                  >
                  > Use VFAT32 (Win 95 and Win 98 filesystem). Its a little faster than
                  > FAT16, and both W2K AND Linux can read/write to it.
                  >
                  >
                  > > My choices of distros are: Redhat 6.1, Redhat 7.1, Debian 2.2r2,
                  > Mandrake
                  > > 7.1, and Slackware 7.1
                  > >
                  > > I have experience with all of them except Slackware and RH7.1.
                  >
                  >
                  > I just installed both RH7.1 and Mandrake 8.0. Both installed like a
                  > champ, and recognized EVERYTHING properly on my Lat C600. Decided to
                  > keep RH 7.1, but only because I have been using RH on other machines
                  > and I didn't want to begin maintain updated RPM's for mulitple
                  > distros. But if you go with Mandrake, I would highly suggest 8.0
                  > over 7.1.
                  > -minnow
                  >
                  >
                  > --------------------------------------------------------------
                  > Please post your X config files in the group links or database
                  >
                  > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
                  >


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                • Stephen Lau
                  ... What kind of nic do you have? is it the intel eepro? ... I think the package is called ltmodem...from what i ve heard, it s relatively easy to get
                  Message 8 of 10 , Jun 1, 2001
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                    On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:30:55PM -0500, Nat Kealen wrote:
                    > However, I get hda irq timeouts on bootup and it does this about four or
                    > five times until it recognizes something and then goes on.
                    >
                    > Plus, my eth0 interface is not working. It almost acts like its starting
                    > and stopping. I cannot ping anything. I get this dump on my screen every
                    > 30 seconds or so:

                    What kind of nic do you have? is it the intel eepro?

                    > Did I mention I was using a Latitude LS? I've got a lucent modem, so I know
                    > I shouldn't have any major problems getting that to work later.

                    I think the package is called ltmodem...from what i've heard, it's
                    relatively easy to get working.

                    > I can live without sound for now. Configuring it is gonna be a female
                    > dog....The Neomagic chipsets share RAM for video and sound.
                    >
                    > After the initial install reboot, the laptop only recognized linux. Lilo
                    > didn't even have W2K listed. Where can I cange that at? A lilo.conf
                    > somewhere?

                    change /etc/lilo.conf
                    and then re-run 'lilo' and you should be golden.

                    -steve

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                  • Simon Josefsson
                    ... I got this a couple of times (with redhat 6.2 though), and a few weeks later my harddisk completly broke. I m seeing it with a new 20GB disk as well, from
                    Message 9 of 10 , Jun 2, 2001
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                      "Nat Kealen" <agentgray@...> writes:

                      > However, I get hda irq timeouts on bootup and it does this about four or
                      > five times until it recognizes something and then goes on.

                      I got this a couple of times (with redhat 6.2 though), and a few weeks
                      later my harddisk completly broke. I'm seeing it with a new 20GB disk
                      as well, from time to time, mostly when I'm running on battery.

                      > I can live without sound for now. Configuring it is gonna be a female
                      > dog....The Neomagic chipsets share RAM for video and sound.

                      OpenSound have working (closed source) sound support for the neomagic
                      chipset. RedHat's "sndconfig" will probably only look up your machine
                      completely. OpenSound promised to send their patches of to
                      linux-kernel people, but that never seemed to happened... I don't
                      really need sound, so I'm just simply bad-mouthing them until the fix
                      gets incorporated into vanilla kernels. :)
                    • Nat Kealen
                      See below...However, I get hda irq timeouts on bootup and it does this about four or five times until it recognizes something and then goes on.
                      Message 10 of 10 , Jun 4, 2001
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                        See below...

                        > > However, I get hda irq timeouts on bootup and it does this about four
                        or
                        > > five times until it recognizes something and then goes on.
                        > >
                        > > Plus, my eth0 interface is not working. It almost acts like its
                        starting
                        > > and stopping. I cannot ping anything. I get this dump on my screen
                        every
                        > > 30 seconds or so:
                        >
                        > What kind of nic do you have? is it the intel eepro?

                        Nah, it's a 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX
                        Compatible). That's straight from W2K settings.

                        > > Did I mention I was using a Latitude LS? I've got a lucent modem, so I
                        know
                        > > I shouldn't have any major problems getting that to work later.
                        >
                        > I think the package is called ltmodem...from what i've heard, it's
                        > relatively easy to get working.

                        Great. I'll lok into that.


                        > change /etc/lilo.conf
                        > and then re-run 'lilo' and you should be golden.

                        Thanks.

                        -n.



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