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Re: [linux-dell-laptops] Distros... which for easy admin??

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  • Wayne Feick
    Hi Ken, I compile everything from source, except for a couple of things that I downloaded binary only (plugins for eclipse). Good luck with whatever you
    Message 1 of 26 , Apr 21, 2005
      Hi Ken,

      I compile everything from source, except for a couple of things that I
      downloaded binary only (plugins for eclipse).

      Good luck with whatever you decide. As you are well aware, there's no
      one size fits all when it comes to linux distributions. :-)

      Wayne.


      ken wrote:

      >Wayne,
      >
      >Thanks very much for your input. It's always good to have another POV.
      >
      >As Einstein once said, you can't arrive at the truth by voting. It
      >seems to me that if you perform all the upgrades to keep your system
      >secure while including all the features/apps you need and your system
      >and apps are stable (in the sense that they don't hork), then the people
      >on the forum are either doing something wrong or are installing specific
      >(problemmatic) apps which you aren't. I'm not in a position to say
      >which of these is the case.
      >
      >Do you ever/sometimes/always compile from sources? Or do you generally
      >install binaries only?
      >
      >
      >Thanks again for your input.
      >
      >ken
      >
      >
      >Wayne Feick wrote:
      >
      >
      >
      >>Hi Ken.
      >>
      >>Point taken. I haven't seen stability issues myself, but it sounds like
      >>you found others who have.
      >>
      >>One thing I have bumped into once in a while is things upgraded
      >>inconsistently such that I had a binary that was linked against an older
      >>version of a library that had since been upgraded. This caused the
      >>binary to fail due to the missing library. Remerging the binary's
      >>package fixed the issue.
      >>
      >>This could just be my fault though, since admittedly I've never sat down
      >>and read all the portage documentation to become a true power user. I've
      >>learned what I needed to get things running, without proactively looking
      >>for additional information on how everything fits together.
      >>
      >>Works well enough for me so far. :-)
      >>
      >>Wayne.
      >>
      >>
      >>ken wrote:
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>>Wayne Feick wrote:
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>><>Hi Ken,
      >>>>
      >>>>One question on your use of the words "stable" and "unstable" in
      >>>>describing Gentoo. Do you mean them in the Gentoo sense, where "stable"
      >>>>means demonstrated by a large group of users to be stable and "unstable"
      >>>>means not yet demonstrated by a large group to be stable? Or did you
      >>>>mean them in the sense of the code actually being unstable and
      >>>>problematic? I suspect if you were reading the Gentoo forums, the former
      >>>>definitions were in use. If you were unfamiliar with how these words are
      >>>>used in the Gentoo context, you might have easily misconcluded that
      >>>>"unstable" fixes were actually problematic.
      >>>>
      >>>>[....]
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>Hey, Wayne,
      >>>
      >>>You're right to bring up this question of terminology.
      >>>
      >>>One person mentioned that when he upgraded (out of a security
      >>>vulnerability) the new app crashed. That was the sense of "unstable"
      >>>being used there. I found the forum on the gentoo website but no longer
      >>>have the URLs of the specific pages I read. My understanding of what
      >>>people there were saying was that the official, purportedly "stable"
      >>>version of apps were, in fact, unstable. One person even asked the
      >>>group rhetorically, How can gentoo make it into the server rooms when
      >>>its applications are so unstable?
      >>>
      >>>Understand, I was reading this forum hoping to find information which
      >>>would tell me that I'd found the distro I wanted to use. As I mentioned
      >>>before, I first found some encouraging information about the gentoo
      >>>PMS. If you search the gentoo forums for some terms I saw there--
      >>>install, stable, unstable, QA, and QC-- you might find this thread.
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >
      >
      >
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