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  • David Vergin
    My Inspiron 7500 has been visited recently by the dreaded block read error on boot. I dutifully run fsck in the session it opens for me. That gives me... Error
    Message 1 of 9 , Nov 29, 2003
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      My Inspiron 7500 has been visited recently by the dreaded block read
      error on boot. I dutifully run fsck in the session it opens for me. That
      gives me...

      Error reading block 786449 (Attempt to read
      block from filesystem resulted in short read)
      while doing inode scan. Ignore <y>?

      I answer 'y'. It finishes scanning, reboots, and everything is fine for
      that session. (Sometimes it even cold boots with no complaint.)

      But my reading tells me that this harddisk is on its way out. Yes? No?

      So I went shopping for 3rd party hard disks: It appears that laptop hard
      disks are pretty much standard these days. Several web-based outfits
      claim to sell "universal" laptop hard disks. Is this for real? If so, I
      can get double my current 20GB for about $200. (Nice!)

      Is it that simple? Are there any gotcha's here? Any brands or sellers to
      avoid or favor.

      I'm not too worried about installation and setup (did that in my old
      desk-top days) -- just don't want to mess up the order itself.

      TIA
      David
    • Sean Gibbins
      On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:54:17 +0000 ... Ooh - don t get me started! Ky HDD died on my 8200 and when I spoke to Dell they implied that I had to purchase one from
      Message 2 of 9 , Nov 29, 2003
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        On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:54:17 +0000
        David Vergin <dvergin@...> wrote:

        > My Inspiron 7500 has been visited recently by the dreaded
        > block read error on boot. I dutifully run fsck in the
        > session it opens for me. That gives me...
        >
        > Error reading block 786449 (Attempt to read
        > block from filesystem resulted in short read)
        > while doing inode scan. Ignore <y>?
        >
        > I answer 'y'. It finishes scanning, reboots, and
        > everything is fine for that session. (Sometimes it even
        > cold boots with no complaint.)
        >
        > But my reading tells me that this harddisk is on its way
        > out. Yes? No?
        >
        > So I went shopping for 3rd party hard disks: It appears
        > that laptop hard disks are pretty much standard these
        > days. Several web-based outfits claim to sell "universal"
        > laptop hard disks. Is this for real? If so, I can get
        > double my current 20GB for about $200. (Nice!)
        >
        > Is it that simple? Are there any gotcha's here? Any brands
        > or sellers to avoid or favor.
        >
        > I'm not too worried about installation and setup (did that
        > in my old desk-top days) -- just don't want to mess up the
        > order itself.

        Ooh - don't get me started!

        Ky HDD died on my 8200 and when I spoke to Dell they implied
        that I had to purchase one from them (implied, not stated),
        price £350! In the end I got one from eBuyer for £140 - a
        5400rpm drive instead of the 4200rpm one on offer from Dell.
        The only thing I can see that made the Dell variety
        different is a removable connector (cost < £2).

        Anyway, I would open up your machine and take a look at the
        make and model of the present HDD (there are almost
        certainly instructions available on the Dell site for this).
        If it is a standard brand, as opposed to something exotic, I
        would imagine you will be okay. Mine was an IBM Travelstar.

        Also check the revision of your BIOS - this might be a
        limiting factor and might require an upgrade to handle
        larger HDDs.

        Finally, check with specialist retailers: I contacted a
        couple who were dead helpful, but didn't have what I wanted
        in stock. If they say that a particular model is suitable
        for your machine, ask them to gaurantee that.

        Whatever you do, don't go back to Dell unless you really
        have to!

        Sean
        --
        The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to
        catch up. - Steven Wright
      • Peter Hayes
        ... There are two heights of disk, slimline ones about 9.5mm high, and bigger ones about 12mm high. Just make sure you can fit the bigger one, or else
        Message 3 of 9 , Nov 30, 2003
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          On Saturday 29 November 2003 18:54, David Vergin wrote:
          > My Inspiron 7500 has been visited recently by the dreaded block read
          > error on boot. I dutifully run fsck in the session it opens for me. That
          > gives me...
          >
          > Error reading block 786449 (Attempt to read
          > block from filesystem resulted in short read)
          > while doing inode scan. Ignore <y>?
          >
          > I answer 'y'. It finishes scanning, reboots, and everything is fine for
          > that session. (Sometimes it even cold boots with no complaint.)
          >
          > But my reading tells me that this harddisk is on its way out. Yes? No?
          >
          > So I went shopping for 3rd party hard disks: It appears that laptop hard
          > disks are pretty much standard these days. Several web-based outfits
          > claim to sell "universal" laptop hard disks. Is this for real? If so, I
          > can get double my current 20GB for about $200. (Nice!)
          >
          > Is it that simple? Are there any gotcha's here? Any brands or sellers to
          > avoid or favor.
          >
          > I'm not too worried about installation and setup (did that in my old
          > desk-top days) -- just don't want to mess up the order itself.

          There are two "heights" of disk, slimline ones about 9.5mm high, and bigger
          ones about 12mm high. Just make sure you can fit the bigger one, or else
          purchase the slimmer version. I think those figures are correct, but in any
          event, as far as I know that's the main "gotcha". I believe the other
          dimensions and the pinout are standard.

          That's the mechanical aspect. Then there's disk speed - the faster they are
          the more power and heat they produce. And there's cache - I bought a Toshiba
          drive that seemed a bargain but later found it didn't have a cache and it's
          noticeably slower than my IBM disk.

          As to brand - I don't know...

          Peter
        • mchristoph.eckert@t-online.de
          Am Sonntag, 30. November 2003 11:06 schrieb Peter Hayes: Hi, ... I bought a new 9.5 because of more disk space, more performance and less noise. Everything
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            Am Sonntag, 30. November 2003 11:06 schrieb Peter Hayes:

            Hi,

            > There are two "heights" of disk, slimline ones about 9.5mm
            > high

            I bought a new 9.5 because of more disk space, more
            performance and less noise.

            Everything worked fine and exchanging it was very simple.


            Gruß / regards


            ce

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          • James Knox
            Last year, a friend of mine bought two 60GB Hitachi disks from a local store and installed them in his Inspiron 7500 without a problem. He went from 3600RPM to
            Message 5 of 9 , Nov 30, 2003
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              Last year, a friend of mine bought two 60GB Hitachi disks from a local
              store and installed them in his Inspiron 7500 without a problem. He
              went from 3600RPM to 4200RPM and thought it was great. I just bought a
              Toshiba 60GB, 5200RPM, 16MB cache yesterday to replace my 30GB IBM
              drive. I hope to install it later this week - I'll let you know how
              it goes.

              The local store also sells a USB/Firewire kit for attaching laptop disks
              externally. I thought it would be good for creating an image of the
              HD and I can make use of the old drive too.

              Store did mention to beware of 40GB BIOS limit on older machines. I
              checked the Dell site and saw that I could buy a 60GB drive for my
              Inspiron 8000 which is what gave me courage to buy locally.

              Hope this help.

              Cheers,

              James mailto:jamesknox@...

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              On Saturday, November 29, 2003, 12:54:17 PM, David Vergin wrote:

              > My Inspiron 7500 has been visited recently by the dreaded block read
              > error on boot. I dutifully run fsck in the session it opens for me. That
              > gives me...

              > Error reading block 786449 (Attempt to read
              > block from filesystem resulted in short read)
              > while doing inode scan. Ignore <y>?

              > I answer 'y'. It finishes scanning, reboots, and everything is fine for
              > that session. (Sometimes it even cold boots with no complaint.)

              > But my reading tells me that this harddisk is on its way out. Yes? No?

              > So I went shopping for 3rd party hard disks: It appears that laptop hard
              > disks are pretty much standard these days. Several web-based outfits
              > claim to sell "universal" laptop hard disks. Is this for real? If so, I
              > can get double my current 20GB for about $200. (Nice!)

              > Is it that simple? Are there any gotcha's here? Any brands or sellers to
              > avoid or favor.

              > I'm not too worried about installation and setup (did that in my old
              > desk-top days) -- just don't want to mess up the order itself.

              > TIA
              > David



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            • Sean Gibbins
              ... From: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] New
              Message 6 of 9 , Dec 1, 2003
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                To: linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com <linux-dell-laptops@yahoogroups.com>
                Subject: Re: [linux-dell-laptops] New Hard Disk
                Date: 01/12/03 07:18

                >
                > Hi,
                >
                > I'm not very on-topic, but its still hard disk related.
                > Is there any place where one can buy the disk-holding _tray_ for a
                > Inspiron 82K ? I have one spare slim disk drive, I do like to use it,
                > and I'm fed up taking all the small screws from my regular tray.
                > Any hints ?

                Don't know about that, but I do know that you can purchase a modular tray
                that slots in where your floppy normally lives to hold a second HDD. A
                colleague has one on his 8100. I have seen these on eBay, reasonably priced.

                Sean

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              • Pierre-Yves Bonnetain
                Hi, I m not very on-topic, but its still hard disk related. Is there any place where one can buy the disk-holding _tray_ for a Inspiron 82K ? I have one spare
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                  Hi,

                  I'm not very on-topic, but its still hard disk related.
                  Is there any place where one can buy the disk-holding _tray_ for a
                  Inspiron 82K ? I have one spare slim disk drive, I do like to use it,
                  and I'm fed up taking all the small screws from my regular tray.
                  Any hints ?
                  Thanks,

                  David Vergin wrote:

                  > So I went shopping for 3rd party hard disks: It appears that laptop hard
                  > disks are pretty much standard these days. Several web-based outfits
                  > claim to sell "universal" laptop hard disks. Is this for real? If so, I
                  > can get double my current 20GB for about $200. (Nice!)
                  >
                  > Is it that simple? Are there any gotcha's here? Any brands or sellers to
                  > avoid or favor.
                  >
                  > I'm not too worried about installation and setup (did that in my old
                  > desk-top days) -- just don't want to mess up the order itself.

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                • Doug Campbell
                  ... I did this a few months ago. I called Dell spare parts USA at one of (don t remember which I used now): 1-800-449-3355 x69937 1-800-357-3355 x69937
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                    > I'm not very on-topic, but its still hard disk related.
                    > Is there any place where one can buy the disk-holding _tray_ for a
                    > Inspiron 82K ? I have one spare slim disk drive, I do like to use it,
                    > and I'm fed up taking all the small screws from my regular tray.
                    > Any hints ?

                    I did this a few months ago. I called Dell spare parts USA at
                    one of (don't remember which I used now):

                    1-800-449-3355 x69937
                    1-800-357-3355 x69937
                    1-800-624-9896 2, 2, 4

                    They were out of the tray that holds both 9.5mm and 12.5mm
                    drives, so I got the one for 12.5mm drives. This is part
                    4169D. If you use a 9.5mm drive (like I do), you need to
                    put some foam or something in to keep it from rattling
                    around in the extra space.

                    The tray requires some screws that they were also out of
                    stock on, but I found that I had some that worked.

                    Good luck!
                  • Randy Dees
                    Ebay also works quite well. I recently got a pair of trays for my new Latitude D600. Prices tend to vary widely, but I paid far less for the parts than going
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                      Ebay also works quite well. I recently got a pair of trays for my new
                      Latitude D600. Prices tend to vary widely, but I paid far less for the
                      parts than going direct to Dell.

                      <quote who="Doug Campbell">
                      >> I'm not very on-topic, but its still hard disk related.
                      >> Is there any place where one can buy the disk-holding _tray_ for a
                      >> Inspiron 82K ? I have one spare slim disk drive, I do like to use it,
                      >> and I'm fed up taking all the small screws from my regular tray.
                      >> Any hints ?
                      >
                      > I did this a few months ago. I called Dell spare parts USA at
                      > one of (don't remember which I used now):
                      >
                      > 1-800-449-3355 x69937
                      > 1-800-357-3355 x69937
                      > 1-800-624-9896 2, 2, 4
                      >
                      > They were out of the tray that holds both 9.5mm and 12.5mm
                      > drives, so I got the one for 12.5mm drives. This is part
                      > 4169D. If you use a 9.5mm drive (like I do), you need to
                      > put some foam or something in to keep it from rattling
                      > around in the extra space.
                      >
                      > The tray requires some screws that they were also out of
                      > stock on, but I found that I had some that worked.
                      >
                      > Good luck!
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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