Re: Dell Linux Support WAS: inspiron 8000
- there is a difference between not knowing and not caring
because another monolith has made life simpler that way...
seriously folks, there are several direct-action methods
for combatting the DELL stupidity:
-- when ordering a system not officially supported for
linux, load the system fully, max the features, and
when the order-entered announcement arrives, simply
"Please cancel this order immediately due to LACK of
LINUX support. Your website is misleading, I've
looked for the instructions there for installing
LINUX and LINUX driver downloads and tips and cannot
ten or so of these a day for a month should do the
-- take ten minutes to email dell support with general
questions on how to install LINUX on laptops, and
where the instructions are for doing this, on their
website. when they respond negatively, or probably
as they did before with a null pointer, let them
know you'll become more interested when they start
to provide some more substantial info.
again, if they just got ten or so of these a day for
a month, that would be sufficient.
-- similarly for the MS software.
let's see - 30 * 30 * $3K * 12 -> $32.4M per year.
-- keep posting those alternative vendors, here, and
regularly! that'll suck another $10M or so in business.
remember, for these clowns, it *always* comes down to a business
decision. one need only make it clear that it is the correct decision
to wake up and smell the end of the monopoly.
- be very careful not to confuse issues here.
the issue is not "how to get less with less", the issue is "how to get
rid of both the LINUX stupidity and the MSFT stuff". with a laptop,
one really needs to get the long warranties, laptops do have a
charmingly high rate of hardware breakage. face it, the other
part of the warranty on refurbs, the free support is also useless,
really, as most of the linux crowd can do a lot better on the software
and installation support themselves, anyway.
so, be very careful with these refurbs, the warranty is basically
"BUYER BEWARE", with the only caveat being that FOR 30 DAYS ONLY if
you don't like what you bought for any reason, you are entitled to
ship the unit back to DELL. you forego all possibilities of any real
hardware warranty after 30 days by going the refurb route: you have
no option to purchase any longer warranty with the refurbs.
the post below probably comes from a DELL rep. in fact, the tone of
several of these posts seems to be a bit too understanding of what is
really an illegal practice of monopoly.
follow art's link thru a couple of pages and click at the left on
"warrant information" to see it in b&w.
ouch! yikes! my oh my oh my! can it be true really, that things are
not set-up to be helpful to the buyer?
i'm so in shock :)
--- In email@example.com, "Art Delano" <adelano@l...>
> At 1:14 PM +0000 12/1/00, Richard Simpson wrote:get a
> >BTW, don't forget that if you work for a big Dell customer you can
> >discount on Dell hardware which you buy for home. On my 7500 I got7% off and
> >a free upgrade to a 3 year warranty.from
> Don't rule out the Dell Factory Outlet, either. It sells refurbished
> systems for reasonable prices (my Inspiron 3800 was bought for $1499
> there in June, compared to a similar configuration from the mainstore
> which at the time cost over $2500). The standard Dell warranties arethem but
> included, as well.
> (URL only applicable in the States; sorry)
> Somebody else had asked about vendors which specialize in laptops
> pre-loaded with Linux rather than Windows. I found this when i was
> initially shopping for laptops last Spring. I haven't dealt with
> it shouldn't be hard to track down reports from people who have:features
> Art Delano, New Media Designer "The 2nd half of this cut
> Logic Solutions, Inc. an unprecedentedcollaboration
> adelano@l... between African Pygmies and
> 734-930-0009x215 a tango orchestra."
- At 4:27 PM +0000 12/1/00, ashley_pond@... wrote:
>so, be very careful with these refurbs, the warranty is basicallyThat's not true.
>"BUYER BEWARE", with the only caveat being that FOR 30 DAYS ONLY if
>you don't like what you bought for any reason, you are entitled to
>ship the unit back to DELL. you forego all possibilities of any real
>hardware warranty after 30 days by going the refurb route: you have
>no option to purchase any longer warranty with the refurbs.
The 30-day policy only covers full refund for hardware return for defective
merchandise. The warranty is otherwise identical to the new machines. (The
lower-end Inspirons have 1-year warranties; the higher-end Inspirons have
Compare the refurb warranty statement at
with the standard warranty statement at
>the post below probably comes from a DELL rep. in fact, the tone ofI work in southeastern Michigan (extrapolate my employer's web URL from my
>several of these posts seems to be a bit too understanding of what is
>really an illegal practice of monopoly.
address), and am speaking representing only myself.
Please reserve your unfounded speculations for evenings with your friends.
Art Delano, New Media Designer "The 2nd half of this cut features
Logic Solutions, Inc. an unprecedented collaboration
adelano@... between African Pygmies and
734-930-0009x215 a tango orchestra."