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  • Pamela McLean
    Fred I get the feeling that you would like to use Skype at your e-meeting. It gives you some benefits - but also some extra challenges. How will you include
    Message 1 of 50 , Jul 4, 2007

      I get the feeling that you would like to use Skype at your e-meeting. It gives you some benefits - but also some extra challenges. How will you include the people who do not have skype - the people who will come to the e-meeting but will be like a deaf person. Please think about this.

      People who do not have Skpe , do not worry, you will not be left out. You are wanted at the e-meeting.

      Let us think about the roles of people at the meeting.

      Fred - You are the leader - so you have information that you want to give. Your interests will be the focus of our meeting. You and Andrius have already had some discussion about the agenda.

      Andrius is the chairman - he will help us to move through the agenda, keep our discussions focussed, and help us to get contributions from different people at different times.  He will guide us all on when Fred should 'have the floor' and when we should all be joining in.

      The rest of us are participants. Sometimes we will be learning from Fred, sometimes we will want to ask questions, sometimes we will want to contribute our own experience, (sometimes we will just want to greet friends and chat with each - we should try to do that only before and after the formal e-meeting, not while Andrius is taking us through the agenda).

      Fred - As leader you want to give a lot of information. so perhaps you would like to use skype as well as typing in the chat room. Perhaps you could type your main points - so everyone will know what they are, and then you can add some extra information through speech - but not too much or the "deaf participants" - those without skype will get left out.

      I think that the participants should only use chat. We should not use Skype to ask you questions - if there are question and answer sessions using  Skype it will exclude those who cannot hear. We do not watn anyone to be excluded. If we always type the questions then everyone will know what the questions are, and then everyone can see the focus of the discussion. We will have an archive of the chat, so we will have the questions collected up for future reference. Perhaps Fred you would like to give brief spoken answers for those who can hear - and then afterwards you could type answers and post them here on LFEO.  That way the people without Skype would still get the answers to their questions - although it would be after the meeting - and we would all benefit from having a written record.

      When you see the written questions coming in it will help you, and Andrius to know what is of most interest to the participants. The questions can influence the emphasis, and pace, of the meeting (how long we spend on the different parts of the agenda), The question can also help us to know what topics we should choose for future e-meetings.

      Fred and Andrius - these are just my thoughts - one possible way to do it. None of us will know what will work best until we try it. Whatever way you choose to do it will be a good choice and we will learn from it. I will be ready with Skype in case you decide to use it. I repeat to people who do not have Skype - please attend - you will not be left out - the main information flows will be through typing at the chat room.

      I am looking forward to e-meeting tomorrow.



      On 04/07/07, fdkayiwa <fdkayiwa@...> wrote:

      Iguess Pam its good we can use skype for those who can afford

    • asif.daya@trainerspod.com
      The meeting is at : http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8
      Message 50 of 50 , Aug 15, 2007

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        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." - Eric Hoffer


        From: learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com [mailto:learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McLean
        Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:23 AM
        To: learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com; Holistic Helping; Men Denyo; globalvillages@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [learningfromeachother] Re: Let's e-meet again.

        Tomorrow -Thursday 16th August is our next e-meeting. Thanks to Asif and Trainerspod, it will be an audio-graphic meeting - or "Webinar".  click the links below for details
        It is 3.30 London time

        More Information: http://www.trainers pod.com/info/

        Register: http://www.trainers pod.com/register

        You need to register before hand to make sure that your system has all the necessary software down loaded. But if you are not able to down load the software then Andrius has said that he will run a parallel session in the chat room, WorkNets Chat Room  so you do not have to be left out. The benefit of meeting at Trainerspod is that the session there will include sound, and an interactive whiteboard, and some other features.

        The session is called LearnByDoing ICT4Ed&D. If all goes well it will be the first of a series. In the first session we will LearnByDoing about how we like to use audiographic meetings for "our kind" of exchange of information. I have been thinking about this for some time, and exploring audiographic conferencing, and have some ideas about it which we can try out and discuss. This means that  I will be leading the session. I also think it is a good idea if the session leader has the help of a chairman, so I have asked Sasha to fill that role.

        I won't explain more now -as that is what the meeting is about. I look forward to e-meeting Minciu Sodas people tomorrow. We will also try to fit in some informal networking. Please invite anyone else who may be interested.


        On 10/08/07, asif.daya@trainersp od.com <asif.daya@trainersp od.com
        > wrote:

        SEE the following for a 10:30 am EDT time (New York) meeting to start to use Elluminate.

        http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/fixedtime. html?month= 8&day=10&year=2007&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=179

        Please consider the environment before printing this message.

        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." - Eric Hoffer


        From: asif.daya@trainerspod.com [mailto:asif.daya@trainerspod. com]
        Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:12 PM
        To: 'learningfromeachoth er@yahoogroups. com'
        Subject: RE: [learningfromeachot her] Re: Let's e-meet again.

        Hi Everyone:

        The Webinar below is 14:30 GMT for meeting on how to use Elluminate - but please try that earlier at the vROOM. ... or DEMO room. and 15:00 GMT for the MAIN meeting. You will all need to register using the register link below and chose Pamela's meeting. Of course you can also register for the next upcoming Webinar which showed much success when we had it as a different topic but by the same person - this time there is another partner with her. They are very good as Pam is too.

        Please consider the environment before printing this message.

        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." - Eric Hoffer


        From: learningfromeachoth er@yahoogroups. com [mailto:learningfromeachother@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McLean
        Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:43 PM
        To: learningfromeachoth er@yahoogroups. com
        Subject: Re: [learningfromeachot her] Re: Let's e-meet again.

        Meetings - meetings - the most recent and next week - you are warmly invited

        ~ Most recent.
        The meeting that Andrius arranged for Thursday August 9th was wonderful.  It was very practical and focused. I hope Andrius will have time to write it up for us so that people who were not there will get an impression of what went on  - or of course there is the archive - but it was a long meeting. I was very excited and happy to see the quality of the practical information and the ideas that were flowing. It was really fulfilling a dream for me regarding getting answers to my LFEO questions.

        ~ Next week,on Thursday August 16th
        Next week,on Thursday August 16th we have a dual meeting. I am leading an e-meeting at Trainerspod. However we know some people at cyber cafes are not able to join in a meeting which has sound (which we use at Trainerspod) and  so Andrius has volunteered to arrange a parallel session in the chat room. The Trainerspod session has to run at a time that best suits USA - so it is a little later than our usual chat room sessions. It is 10.30 a.m. EST for 11.00, that is 15.30 for 16.00 London time. See below for full details of what it is all about - I very much hope to e-meet some of you at Trainerspod - or if not - I hope to learn that you are in the chat room.

        If you know anyone else who might be interested please pass on the invitation:

        Limited (FREE) Registration Now Open for a Live Webinar

        Title: LearnByDoing - ICT for Education and Development

        Speakers: Pamela McLean

        Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007

        Time: 11:00 am EDT - 1:00 pm EDT (Arrive at 10:30 for tutorial on Elluminate)
        (Please go to http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/meeting. html to confirm your time zone.)

        Cost: FREE - But 1st come first seated - limited seating.

        More Information: http://www.trainers pod.com/info/

        Register: http://www.trainers pod.com/register

        Event Background

        ICT is changing our opportunities to learn.  The LearnByDoing series explores some of the realities, and how they relate to education and development.

        One image of education is that it has three inter-related parts: teacher(s), learner(s), and a knowledge base of some kind.  In many rural African schools rote learning is still the order of the day, because the only knowledge base is the knowledge of the teacher, supplemented by a few books. By contrast, where learners have access to the Internet, a huge knowledge base is available for the learners to interrogate. The Internet also offers the opportunity for peer-to-peer learning, collaboration on practical projects, and distance learning of various kinds.

        This session (the first in a series) builds on the knowledge base of a network of activists – all involved  in various aspects of ICT, education, and development. It focuses on their practical projects and issues surrounding them.

        This  session sets the scene and provides a model for subsequent sessions. Each session is complete in itself. A typical session will focus on a given topic, and include people with different kinds of expertise relating to the topic - more in the style of a structured illustrated meeting than an individual presentation.

        About the Presenter

        Pamela McLean is an ICT for Education (and Development) activist, working on the Internet and in rural Africa.
        Her work explores the relationship between teaching, learning, and ICT, and the implications for education, training and development.
        She is involved in ICT training for teachers in rural Kenya and Nigeria (where, it is said, if you train a teacher you train the community); leads the group LearningFromEachOth er in Mincui Sodas; is a CAWD volunteer: and is co-director, with John Dada, of DadaMcLean Ltd - Knowledge Brokers.

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