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, helen mahoo
> Hello Andrius
> How is Chicago,hope everything is doing great there,i will check
here in Tanzania how much is USB flash drive they sell and i will
come to you,for how long you will be in Chicago?wish you good time
there,my mom was serious sick but she is doing better now she have
Blood pressure and Blood Sugar,My big thanks to our lovely MOM MARIA
AGNESE she help me to get some medicine for my mom,Thanks very much
Agnese i meet with Dr hussein and he gave me some medicine be
> My contact are
> Helen Mahoo
> P.o.Box 1645
> Dar es salaam
> East Africa
> Mobile no. +255784 448977
> My Account no. is 0121012249801
> email address helenmahoo@...
> Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...> wrote:
> I want to share some news from our lab regarding our work in
> Pamela McLean, Maria Agnese Giraudo and also reply to Samwel
> Fred Kayiwa and others.
> Pamela McLean leads our working group Learning From Each Other
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/learningfromeachother (join us by
> a blank message to email@example.com
> She introduced me to Asif Daya who created the "webinar" technology
> she used on Thursday to present her interests using a combination
> technologies such as voice, chat and web pages. Asif and I will try
> this out this coming Thursday at 11:00 am Florida time (in the USA
> changing our clocks this weekend so I'm not sure what that will be
> Austria but I hope that Franz Nahrada and others might join us to
> practice as this technology may be very relevant for our video
> I share below Pamela's letters and my long chat with her and Asif
> and Nancy Glock-Gruenich. Pamela will lead our Nigerian team for
> MyFoodStory and I will provide 1,000 USD for her team as she thinks
> best. Pamela, what is the best way to send you the money?
> Yesterday I mailed a USB flash drive to Tom Ochuka along with a
> for 100 USD. I also mailed a flash drive to Kennedy Owino. I have
> purchased one that I will send out to Fred Kayiwa. Fred, is this
> address: po box 3490 kampala uganda ? Is that sufficient? Helen
> please send me your mailing address so that I can send you a check
> some flash drives.
> If any of our participants in Africa or India would like a USB
> drive please speak up! They are quite inexpensive here. I bought
> for $7 at Walgreen's whereas they can cost $50 in Africa. The
> is only $2.40 but the real cost is registering the letter (about
> so that they would not be stolen (if this is not necessary, please
> me know). If you think that you could sell these profitably, then
> discuss that, too.
> I spoke with Agnese (Maria Agnese Giraudo) in Rome, Italy. She is
> looking forward to inviting Samwel Kongere to Europe and she can
> his travel. However, she wants this to be a project for our entire
> laboratory so that it is truly meaningful. We decided to postpone
> trip until March, 2008 or so. We plan to have a meeting of our
> laboratory there in Italy - perhaps connected with some larger
> conference or event - and we'd like Paolo Pumilia to lead us in
> through his Open Content organization. Our first goal is to satisfy
> dreams of our participants and certainly that includes Samwel's
> Agnese proposes. Such travel can be extremely meaningful for
> establishing contacts for existing and future projects. He should
> for two months and stay in Italy and Lithuania and I recommend
> and perhaps the UK. We would learn a great deal by having Samwel
> us here in Europe so that he might have a better understanding of
> situation and he can see what might be truly useful. Also, he could
> what kind of skills he might best learn and make progress. We will
> pursue business contacts. We'd like to work towards his leading a
> bridge facility from Rusinga Island. This would grow out of the
> Internet access that he is working towards using the wireless
> technology. This also makes it meaningful for us to work together
> around the world and also opens up business opportunities, for
> for sophisticated data entry, that I am pursuing.
> Samwel, please sign up for Mendenyo the people who you collected at
> World Social Forum. Do that here:
> You can add ten people per day.
> Fred Kayiwa and all, let's think of the different ways that we can
> computers. We should see if any of our participants might donate an
> laptop. Or speak to organizations such as Time Dollars Tutoring
> http://www.timedollartutoring.org if they might give or sell us
> computers. Fred, Samwel, Helen and all, please let's consider
> computers from parts. It is not very difficult. Please inquire how
> much the bulky parts cost locally (such as monitors and cases). We
> send motherboards and hard drives by mail. Also, each person who
> like a computer, let's be sure to write about ourselves: 1 page or
> letter about who we are and what we want to accomplish, 1 page or
> about our deepest value in life and a question that we don't know
> answer to, but want to answer, and 1 page or letter about how we
> make good use of a computer and other technology that we want and
> different ways of acquiring that and how much it would cost. With
> information we can make good decisions and also ask for help from
> Here in Chicago I am staying at David Ellison-Bey's house on
> just a few blocks away from St.Benedict the African church where I
> in the choir and we have many participants at Samwel Kongere's
> group Mendenyo (Men without food!)
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mendenyo/ I am working with David to
> up a video Skype capability here. He is in good spirits. Today was
> warm spring day!
> Andrius Kulikauskas
> Minciu Sodas
> (773) 659-9852
> Pamela McLean wrote:
> > Asif
> > Glad you felt it was worth doing despite the problems - part of
> > learning curve - and it did get some good outcomes in the end
> > Lets' discuss after I get back.
> > Dick's Webinar has already had a mention alongside mine - we can
> > more info up any time now because his is the next one - with a
> > reminder closer to the day. Please see if Andrius can do the one
> > following.... or another as soon after that as possible.
> > I'd also like to invite Saskia to do one - she would involve her
> > network of ICT trainers in Africa. Even if they couldn't access
> > might well get feedback from them about their difficulties in
> > accessing - all good stuff for your research. In fact you should
> > her if you can join her network. We should certainly invite Yese
> > Zambia - his training centre would be a good place to host
> > and video bridge happenings. In fact Saskia probably knows places
> > that in all the Afrcian countries where IICD supports ICT
> > Hmm - I think I'd better copy them in ;-)
> > Pam
> > asif.daya@... wrote:
> >> Pam and Jenny:
> >> You guys did a wonderful job with the Webinar, considering all
> >> obstacles the Webinar was very informative and useful. I
> >> Skype but got to the ending of it I called earlier but
> >> was no answer.
> >> The way I see us doing this better is to have the People
> >> in Advance with their Contacts, Title, Bio, Photo and put them
> >> upcoming events list. We have the dates squared away. That way
> >> all prepared with the [practice session and remove any glitches
> >> Any thoughts?
> >> Asif.
> Pamela: Andrius
> Nancy: im still here too. my noon call didn't happen, it seems
> nancy gg
> Pamela: Andrius - great to see you again
we have been talking about you
> Asif: Welcome Andrius - I'm Asif from Trainerspod.com
> Pamela: didiNancy call you here...
> Andrius: Hi Asif!
> Pamela: Pleas asif adn Andrius - meet...
> Andrius: I noticed that you created this software - that is
And I'm glad it works with Linux.
I didn't get to try it out today though.
> Pamela: Andrius I am so happy that ms and cawdnet are flowign
> inot each other
> Andrius: Oh, I'm glad!
I chatted today with Agnese in Italy
> Pamela: yes????
> Andrius: and she is now studying e-learning to get a Master's
> degree in that
and so she wants to work more closely with you
> Pamela: excellent
> Andrius: and she will invite Samwel Kongere to Italy and Europe
> probably in March 2008
and we'd like to have a Minciu Sodas meeting there then
and hopefully also go to some related conference in education and
> e-learning if you have ideas.
> Pamela: you see asif we are a netowrk of complementary intersts
> - not one single puspose...
> Andrius: Also we might be able to send Samwel to the UK if that
> made sense.
> Asif: I see
> Andrius: My goal is for him to be able to set up a wi-fi network on
> his island and be able to connect with us by video.
> Pamela: It is becaseu we are different that we connect...
That woudl be great
> Andrius: And also we hope soon to have a chat channel at
it is working now: http://www.myfoodstory.info/chat/
> Pamela: I need to talk to you ref my food story
> Andrius: but we need to have an archive for the chats so that we
> can reference them later
> Pamela: but you adn ansif will want to talk of other things
> just now
asif has teh technology
wehave teh netwroks adn teh need to communicate
> Andrius: and we need to be able to grab the latest line in the chat
> so that we can present that on pages such as
> http://www.myfoodstory.info that can show that
Yes, Asif where are you?
It would be great to work together with you on the technology.
You have accomplished a lot and we have many needs and ideas.
> Asif: Andrius can I invite you to speak via Elluminate to an
> audience on your topic of expertise / interest?
> Andrius: And we have a small budget and some opportunities.
> Pamela: I told Asif that you adn I had discussed you giving one
> of teh Tpod CCamp webinars
> Andrius: Sure - that's a great idea
> Pamela: I hope that is still on..
> Andrius: I should listen to one first, though.
> Pamela: but always we need to include both sides fo teh ditial
> Andrius: I'm glad that you've connected with Nancy!
> Pamela: wefailed to do that today..
> Asif: Richard Heller is speaking on May 3rd
> Andrius: She's wonderfully brilliant.
> Pamela: but at leat teh African network was represented by
> Andrius: Pamela I am making plans for my travel to Europe. I fly
> into Amsterdam on March 20th and from there to Lithuania on April
> So in between I am thinking of going to the UK.
> Pamela: I shoudl be back in Uk on April 5th..
you must not leave the country until I see you again ;-)
You are going to Amsterdam?
You must meet paul rayar...
> Andrius: Great!
And I can meet with your colleagues.
Pamela, what are your thoughts on MyFoodStory?
> Pamela: which colleagues do you have inmind?
ther is only Lorraien adn me in Uk
> Andrius: I have started a different approach - rather than the
> "teams" - I want to focus on investigators pursuing their
> online investigators paired with on-the-ground investigators.
Agnese and I had the idea to try to connect with the African
> and involve them.
Would that make sense?
> Pamela: excellent - that sounds like our kind of approach..
> Andrius: London is a key center for the African diaspora.
> Pamela: grass roots info and an infomediarylinking with teh
> Asif: I attended a meeting at the World Bank on the Diaspora
> meeting - they are looking for solutions
> Pamela: And teh need to talk to the Africans who are here..
or still at home...
not to forieign consultatnts who only visit briefly
the Africans know the needs - they are always sending money home
> meet them
> Andrius: Asif - I'm glancing through your site - I'm glad Pamela
> has linked us
I'm interested to find ways that I might interlink our website
> your technology.
> Pamela: Elfneh - my ethiopian link for example..
> Andrius: First I should try it out. We should also connect with
> Franz Nahrada in Vienna, Austria.
Could we try a session some time next week?
> Asif: To see Pamela's previos Webinar visit: www.trainerspod.com/CMS
> Andrius: Also, what kind of cost model do you see for our use?
> What is practical?
> Pamela: Yes I long toknow more about his video bridge
> Andrius: Your webinar technology may be a key tool for our video
> Pamela: Andrius we have to have a model like myfoodstory..
where people appreciate that we can get them valuable
> Asif: We set up the Webinar and actually have scheduled dates that
> Pam is aware of. There is no cost right now.
> Pamela: in teh webinars I think that the African side must be
> seen as providing essentila info input.. adn...
> Andrius: Asif, you are in Florida, yes?
> Asif: YES
> Pamela: short term we are here for ntohing...:-)
> Asif: Punta Gorda
> Andrius: Is there a day next week that we could practice?
> Asif: Next Tursday looks fine so far - but send my an e-mail and I
> will confirm a commonly suitable time
> Pamela: lonr term i Hope connected side will sponsor African
> side.. becseu of teh value thier input adds...
leave you two to talk for a while
Andrius can we talk later ref my food Storyready for my trip to
> Andrius: Yes Pamela
Thursday is good
I can't talk much because I have to go soon too
> Asif: OK
> Andrius: I will share our chat at Learning From Each Other
> Asif: Great!
> Andrius: Asif - may I sign you up for Pamela's working group LFEO?
> Asif: That would be great!
Andrius: How do you connect wi-fi to video? You mentioned it
> Pamela: Andriu
I leave on Tuesday
> Andrius: Pamela, briefly, would you like to organize some help for
I can provide some funds.
What would make most sense?
> Pamela: I need to be able to tell poepel exactly what they must
> do - and what I will pay them to do it...
Things have changed reagarding who to invovle adn how
I still watn to invovle the TT people at FF - the ones I will be
> Andrius: For me my goal right now is to pair an investigator online
> (such as you) working on a question they care about (How do we use
> to enable an educational system that lets self-directed learners be
> agents of their own learning?)
with an investigator on-the-ground
who collects first-hand accounts and does outreach.
> Pamela: if is alwasy a problem for them to afford to coemonline
> - I watn the Food story,oney to earn them teh funds for that.
> Andrius: And we focus on food related stories just to ground things
> in the concrete.
Also to set up a system where they can do most of the work
The Flash sticks are now very cheap here in the US
10 dollars each
> Pamela: exactly
> Andrius: whereas in Africa they are selling for 50
so it would be good if you could buy a bunch and give them out
I could pay for them
> Pamela: It is not so much a question of inputting to computers
the infomediary will do that
> Andrius: and people could be responsible for doing some work for us
Currently we're offering 100 USD for 100 first-hand accounts
> Pamela: let me explainwith the TT esample
> Andrius: which can be two or three sentence descriptions of a
> farmer, Why they are interesting? and How do we reach them?
> Pamela: after the course we try to get teh participants to meet
> onece a month to stay intouch wiht me..
> Andrius: for example, their village and a contact person.
> Pamela: yes
> Andrius: So if they just wrote up their own relation to food and
and the people in their networks
> Pamela: In ago-are it is to be pastor david
> Andrius: OK
> Pamela: teh one I am tking teh camera to
that woudl be so good
> Andrius: Can I budget 1000 USD for you - is that fine?
> Pamela: in Ago-are 2everyone si a farmer
> Andrius: And how would you spend it?
> Pamela: that would be wonderful
I woudl give them half of tehmoney up front
we woudl agree waht they expect to be able to deliver...
i fthey do it weell they get teh rest of the money...
> Andrius: yes
> Pamela: It would be a learnig experience
> Andrius: and we can do more in the future
> Pamela: the money would stay in teh kitty wiht FF at first..
> Andrius: Could we pair up investigators online and on-the-ground as
> I am thinking?
> Pamela: it would be paid out gradually
it is what we will try
> Andrius: The idea is that if they help each other then they are
> ready for "material projects" that might build on their work to
And how do you want to divide the money, do you know? Or you can
> on the ground.
> Pamela: yes
> Andrius: But take a look at what we're doing at
> Pamela: I would give the saem to each to see how they can compare.
> Andrius: This is great from Cameroon:
> Pamela: of course it si harder for PD in AA becseu he has no
> internet access now
but i will tell him to collect lots of stories then travel. we
> not expect so mch form him in quantitly
but we will want careful accounts
thank you I need to look at models of excellence to shos peoplw
> you want.
> Andrius: Yes, they can be short like this:
> sells milk, cheese, and eggs on his donkey and his sonn help him in
> work. He is from Til village and he has 4 sons and 2 daughters.
> are in school and they need money to continue their studies. We
> him if this kind of job is good for him to support his family. He
> his family is helping him to do this milk business with two cows
> also has a sheep whose milk can be sold for higher prices.
> Pamela: just a few to domonstrate when I go toNigeria.
> Andrius: That is from Palestine.
Or they can be long like the one from Cameroon.
> Pamela: That is perfect
we can collect liek that.
> Andrius: For the longer ones we can do 20 for 100 USD if they can
> add a picture.
And maybe 3 USD if without a picture.
Is that fair?
> Pamela: that si exactly teh kind of informaion I need to give
> Andrius: And they should do stories that highlight people they want
> to promote
and help make those people reachable
> Pamela: we will find out if it is fair by doing it.
> Andrius: so give their Name, their Village and an online Contact
> Pamela: wehn you say promote????
> Andrius: They should feel they are earning.
And they should be promoting themselves - making themselves
> for future projects from us or others.
> Pamela: yes
> Andrius: Our main goal is to make their social network visible.
In positive ways.
> Pamela: you mean the infomediary..
it ti theri chance to advertise theri services as informaion
> Andrius: And a second goal is to have good examples of human
> experience that we can empathize with and use as reference points
> investigations of our deep questions.
> Pamela: so people will come to value local expertise and knowledge
> Andrius: yes
> Pamela: perhaps we should be looking at the positive concern
> project at FF for that.
FF started as micro finance
it saw a problem with repaymets bcos of HIV?AIDS
> Andrius: Pamela, I need your help - I want to show that a question
> such as: "How do we use ICT to enable an educational system that
> self-directed learners be agents of their own learning?" Can be
> pursued by empathizing with different first-hand accounts such as
> Food Story.
> Pamela: nutrition is more importatnce than drugs
hence Postivie concern
nutrition classes by Dr Kris
the fish pnds.
the positive garden..
Perhaps that is soemthign else we should have a webinar about.
I think perhasp my question needs to be redifined..
when I started i appreciated teh way teh Internet let me learn
> myself .. i.e without paying ot join a formal course....
> Andrius: So imagine that we take your question and explore "How do
> people learn?" Out of the thousands of food stories we can find
> that relate to learning. So I want an investigator (such as you) to
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hallow helen,i hope your mama is doing great now,mr.hussein is a good
man,i was introduced to him by mama gnese,and he has been my great
friend.i hope your mama will be great within a short time.i have seen
your email to Andrius,i would like to ask you,that you find out on
your spare time to find for me,how can i work with NAFSIAFRICAstreet
children rehabilitatin,this remaind a lot in our city dar es
salaam,wher eery conrner you loo around you will be able to see
street children,street children is the bigest issue in our country
and the number is teribly growing,my very concrn is that if we dont
start acting now,the comming generation will never,mama agnese and
all who have been to dar the reall know the reality on the ground,my
request here,how i will be able to work smutenously with nafsiafrica?
i wouldnt want to miss any of their part,i real want to work with
them,know how i can work with them.