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Minciu Sodas: Thanking and Forgiving

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  • ms@ms.lt
    Greetings from Chicago! From 1998 to 2010, I organized Minciu sodas http://www.ms.lt as my business for serving independent thinkers around the world. My
    Message 1 of 3 , Nov 27, 2011
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      Greetings from Chicago!

      From 1998 to 2010, I organized "Minciu sodas" http://www.ms.lt as my
      business for serving independent thinkers around the world. My hope was
      to make a living from Lithuania. I've lived my life as an independent
      thinker and I hoped to serve others, likewise.

      As you know, I failed to make Minciu Sodas work as a viable business. I
      also failed to pay back my loans. I had about $130,000 in debt, mostly
      from credit cards, but also a business loan from a friend's father. Three
      months ago, I declared bankruptcy, and recently, my bankruptcy was
      discharged. I don't have to pay back those loans, but in the future, it
      will be hard for me to borrow money, should I need to. I hope I don't!

      I'm grateful that I was able to dedicate myself to establish Minciu Sodas
      as a venue for the widest variety of independent thinkers. Looking back,
      I'm glad that I can start anew. My goal now is to foster a culture of
      learning, growing, living forever, here and now. I've gained very
      relevant ideas from our work at Minciu Sodas. In particular, I value our
      "12 questions", such as: What is your deepest value in life, which
      includes all of your other values? and What is a question that you don't
      know the answer to, but wish to answer? I appreciate the variety of our
      answers: http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Values I think they help us
      speak heart-to-heart and thus live a culture where we are one.

      Thank you to more than 1,000 participants who contributed thoughtful
      letters over the years. Today, as I look back, I want to thank also Janet
      Feldman ("Holistic Helping"), Pamela McLean ("Learning From Each Other"),
      Franz Nahrada ("Global Villages") and Zenonas and Audrone Anusauskas
      ("Veikti Vis Placiau") for embracing my efforts, hosting Minciu Sodas
      activity and actively fostering a shared culture. I also thank all of us,
      many hundreds, for being there for each other during our Pyramid of Peace
      to avert genocide in Kenya in 2008 http://www.pyramidofpeace.net That was
      marvelous.

      Please forgive me for the many times I may have hurt you over the years.
      Thank you for the slack you've shown me. Likewise, please know that I
      feel blessed by each and every one of us who participated. We all
      contributed genuinely of ourselves.

      My very large debts were forgiven. Likewise, I forgive any and all of our
      debts to Minciu Sodas. In particular, I forgive:
      * Tomas Cepaitis, who failed to deliver $170 to my bank account in
      Lithuania, as I requested.
      * Peter Ongele, who did not repay me a loan of $100 that he requested for
      his schooling.
      * Tom Ochuka, who did not repay me a loan of $75 for the water cart he
      proposed.
      * Samwel Kongere, who misappropriated $570 of money that I had wired for
      him to hold for me.
      We failed each other. Such failures ended my interest in having money
      relationships with the above individuals. This is unfortunate because
      they all had made notable contributions to Minciu Sodas, and our ability
      to work with money is important for us to function in our world. I hope
      that our feelings for each other can start fresh. Looking back, I think
      that making loans to people or having them hold money for me did not work
      well in Minciu Sodas. Whereas paid work and donations made for dozens of
      successful projects.

      I'm glad to look at life with new eyes. I'm glad for God's providence as
      we came together, as we brought Minciu Sodas to life, as we touched and
      moved each other, as we continue further in our various ways. I'm glad
      that I could go bankrupt so unambiguously.

      My best wishes for our best efforts in all we do!

      Thank you,

      Andrius

      Andrius Kulikauskas
      ms@...
      (773) 306-3807
      http://www.selflearners.net
    • kayiwa fred
      How interesting it is to read this Andrius, great to hear such kind word. likewise to every one. Fred ... From: ms@ms.lt Subject: [mendenyo] Minciu
      Message 2 of 3 , Nov 28, 2011
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        How interesting it is to read this Andrius,
        great to hear such kind word.
        likewise to every one.
        Fred


        --- On Sun, 11/27/11, ms@... <ms@...> wrote:

        From: ms@... <ms@...>
        Subject: [mendenyo] Minciu Sodas: Thanking and Forgiving
        To: livingbytruth@yahoogroups.com, learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com, globalvillages@yahoogroups.com, holistichelping@yahoogroups.com, mendenyo@yahoogroups.com
        Cc: uzupis.fafministry@..., peterongele@...
        Date: Sunday, November 27, 2011, 9:20 PM

         

        Greetings from Chicago!

        From 1998 to 2010, I organized "Minciu sodas" http://www.ms.lt as my
        business for serving independent thinkers around the world. My hope was
        to make a living from Lithuania. I've lived my life as an independent
        thinker and I hoped to serve others, likewise.

        As you know, I failed to make Minciu Sodas work as a viable business. I
        also failed to pay back my loans. I had about $130,000 in debt, mostly
        from credit cards, but also a business loan from a friend's father. Three
        months ago, I declared bankruptcy, and recently, my bankruptcy was
        discharged. I don't have to pay back those loans, but in the future, it
        will be hard for me to borrow money, should I need to. I hope I don't!

        I'm grateful that I was able to dedicate myself to establish Minciu Sodas
        as a venue for the widest variety of independent thinkers. Looking back,
        I'm glad that I can start anew. My goal now is to foster a culture of
        learning, growing, living forever, here and now. I've gained very
        relevant ideas from our work at Minciu Sodas. In particular, I value our
        "12 questions", such as: What is your deepest value in life, which
        includes all of your other values? and What is a question that you don't
        know the answer to, but wish to answer? I appreciate the variety of our
        answers: http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Values I think they help us
        speak heart-to-heart and thus live a culture where we are one.

        Thank you to more than 1,000 participants who contributed thoughtful
        letters over the years. Today, as I look back, I want to thank also Janet
        Feldman ("Holistic Helping"), Pamela McLean ("Learning From Each Other"),
        Franz Nahrada ("Global Villages") and Zenonas and Audrone Anusauskas
        ("Veikti Vis Placiau") for embracing my efforts, hosting Minciu Sodas
        activity and actively fostering a shared culture. I also thank all of us,
        many hundreds, for being there for each other during our Pyramid of Peace
        to avert genocide in Kenya in 2008 http://www.pyramidofpeace.net That was
        marvelous.

        Please forgive me for the many times I may have hurt you over the years.
        Thank you for the slack you've shown me. Likewise, please know that I
        feel blessed by each and every one of us who participated. We all
        contributed genuinely of ourselves.

        My very large debts were forgiven. Likewise, I forgive any and all of our
        debts to Minciu Sodas. In particular, I forgive:
        * Tomas Cepaitis, who failed to deliver $170 to my bank account in
        Lithuania, as I requested.
        * Peter Ongele, who did not repay me a loan of $100 that he requested for
        his schooling.
        * Tom Ochuka, who did not repay me a loan of $75 for the water cart he
        proposed.
        * Samwel Kongere, who misappropriated $570 of money that I had wired for
        him to hold for me.
        We failed each other. Such failures ended my interest in having money
        relationships with the above individuals. This is unfortunate because
        they all had made notable contributions to Minciu Sodas, and our ability
        to work with money is important for us to function in our world. I hope
        that our feelings for each other can start fresh. Looking back, I think
        that making loans to people or having them hold money for me did not work
        well in Minciu Sodas. Whereas paid work and donations made for dozens of
        successful projects.

        I'm glad to look at life with new eyes. I'm glad for God's providence as
        we came together, as we brought Minciu Sodas to life, as we touched and
        moved each other, as we continue further in our various ways. I'm glad
        that I could go bankrupt so unambiguously.

        My best wishes for our best efforts in all we do!

        Thank you,

        Andrius

        Andrius Kulikauskas
        ms@...
        (773) 306-3807
        http://www.selflearners.net

      • ms@ms.lt
        Thomas, I m glad to hear from you! I m excited that you ve found a home for your soul in the Catholic Church. I m glad for the Church. I hope to come back to
        Message 3 of 3 , Dec 1, 2011
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          Thomas, I'm glad to hear from you!
          I'm excited that you've found a home for your soul in the Catholic Church.
          I'm glad for the Church.
          I hope to come back to Lithuania to live there, maybe in two years, and
          see you there, too. I hope to visit some time next year.
          Thank you for sharing in your forgiveness!
          Your brother in Christ,
          Andrius

          -----------------------

          Thnak you, Andrius,

          I am glad that your debts are forgiven,
          and that you forgave me my debt.

          Money relationship is a subtle matter, and, having no stabile salary or
          business, me and others can't manage to keep it neat all the way. When
          broken, these relationships arouse resentment and disbelief in people...

          This year was important for me for joyning Catholic church "officialy"
          (through Communion and Confirmation), and I also try to practice what
          Christ said, so I forgave recently my debt (nearly the same) to another
          man; that's how strangely Providence works:)

          It was great to write for "Minchiu Sodas", and I wish you a big success
          with your new endeavour(s),

          Yours sincerely

          Thomas Chepaitis

          2011/11/28 <ms@...>

          Greetings from Chicago!

          >From 1998 to 2010, I organized "Minciu sodas" http://www.ms.lt as my
          business for serving independent thinkers around the world. My hope was
          to make a living from Lithuania. I've lived my life as an independent
          thinker and I hoped to serve others, likewise.

          As you know, I failed to make Minciu Sodas work as a viable business. I
          also failed to pay back my loans. I had about $130,000 in debt, mostly
          from credit cards, but also a business loan from a friend's father.
          Three
          months ago, I declared bankruptcy, and recently, my bankruptcy was
          discharged. I don't have to pay back those loans, but in the future, it
          will be hard for me to borrow money, should I need to. I hope I don't!

          I'm grateful that I was able to dedicate myself to establish Minciu Sodas
          as a venue for the widest variety of independent thinkers. Looking back,
          I'm glad that I can start anew. My goal now is to foster a culture of
          learning, growing, living forever, here and now. I've gained very
          relevant ideas from our work at Minciu Sodas. In particular, I value our
          "12 questions", such as: What is your deepest value in life, which
          includes all of your other values? and What is a question that you don't
          know the answer to, but wish to answer? I appreciate the variety of our
          answers: http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Values I think they help us
          speak heart-to-heart and thus live a culture where we are one.

          Thank you to more than 1,000 participants who contributed thoughtful
          letters over the years. Today, as I look back, I want to thank also
          Janet
          Feldman ("Holistic Helping"), Pamela McLean ("Learning From Each Other"),
          Franz Nahrada ("Global Villages") and Zenonas and Audrone Anusauskas
          ("Veikti Vis Placiau") for embracing my efforts, hosting Minciu Sodas
          activity and actively fostering a shared culture. I also thank all of
          us,
          many hundreds, for being there for each other during our Pyramid of Peace
          to avert genocide in Kenya in 2008 http://www.pyramidofpeace.net That
          was
          marvelous.

          Please forgive me for the many times I may have hurt you over the years.
          Thank you for the slack you've shown me. Likewise, please know that I
          feel blessed by each and every one of us who participated. We all
          contributed genuinely of ourselves.

          My very large debts were forgiven. Likewise, I forgive any and all of
          our
          debts to Minciu Sodas. In particular, I forgive:
          * Tomas Cepaitis, who failed to deliver $170 to my bank account in
          Lithuania, as I requested.
          * Peter Ongele, who did not repay me a loan of $100 that he requested for
          his schooling.
          * Tom Ochuka, who did not repay me a loan of $75 for the water cart he
          proposed.
          * Samwel Kongere, who misappropriated $570 of money that I had wired for
          him to hold for me.
          We failed each other. Such failures ended my interest in having money
          relationships with the above individuals. This is unfortunate because
          they all had made notable contributions to Minciu Sodas, and our ability
          to work with money is important for us to function in our world. I hope
          that our feelings for each other can start fresh. Looking back, I think
          that making loans to people or having them hold money for me did not work
          well in Minciu Sodas. Whereas paid work and donations made for dozens of
          successful projects.

          I'm glad to look at life with new eyes. I'm glad for God's providence as
          we came together, as we brought Minciu Sodas to life, as we touched and
          moved each other, as we continue further in our various ways. I'm glad
          that I could go bankrupt so unambiguously.

          My best wishes for our best efforts in all we do!

          Thank you,

          Andrius

          Andrius Kulikauskas
          ms@...
          (773) 306-3807
          http://www.selflearners.net




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          Sincerely,
          Tomas ńĆepaitis
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