for the moment I like some of the ideas part of a p2p/distributed paradigm of governance, property and production,
which, as you may already know, is fairly well documented through Michel Bauwens and others through
As for my involvements, other then online, I currently focus on Brussels, and soon looking forward to Leipzig :
Related to this, in addition to many other lists and groups, such as this one and other minciu sodas related groups,
I like the direction and synthesis of approaches supported by for example this group of people
and look forward to create mutual emulation in support of such approach to wealth creation ecologies.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Maria Agnese Giraudo <mariaagnesegiraudo@...>
thanks for your interesting contribution, I agree with you that our democracy
doesn't represent us and we see it, more on less, in all countries in
Europe. So, why we have to be involved in a creative redesign of our
democracy and new grassroots participation. It's very dangerous category that
of post-politics, it has been used by dictatorship and
fascism. We remember the strategy of people manipulation of Mussolini. Post-politics,
is negation of sharing of ideas and confrontation and conflict among different
visions and political groups. Post-politics is based on people
instinct use, specially in this time of economic crisis: fear, insecurity,
social prejudices, ignorance and so on, to get the control of all the country. No
more sharing and confrontation of different ideas, no more respect
of rules and dignity of institutions/powers: Government, Parliament,
Jurisdiction to guarantee effective Democracy is working. It’s
time now European people work to elaborate e new democratic vision , including immigrates, unemployed
and underrepresented and involving in
this design of new citizenship for all.
All the best!
Da: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson@...>
Cc: Jeff Buderer <jeff@...>; Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...>
Inviato: Sab 27 febbraio 2010, 11:29:00
Oggetto: Re: [learnhowtolearn] I: Updating on corruption in Italy
I personally strongly doubt that alternatives to the type of politics you mentioned can be
brought through a "justice system", or through "representative politics", or even through direct confrontation.
From my own point of view, alternatives to such kind of post politics
may be likely to come from more economically and politically autonomous networks of communities
I foresee that various societies , with their political and economic systems, will continue growing in parallel to each other on the same territories.
I also have the feeling that the current "state" is likely to continue loosing legitimacy, while at the same time increasing its coerciveness towards any agents that it does not manage to contain within it, and that it sees as competing with it.
Stealth and distributed guerrilla forms of organization are most likely to emerge as to circumvent state coerciveness.
Thats my perception of current developments.
I have been active for a number of years within so called "representative politics",
and I personally feel it is highly ineffective and systemically undemocratic.
Greetings from Brussels,
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Maria Agnese Giraudo <mariaagnesegiraudo@...>
I would like you to be informed that Italy democracy is in worse situation and
serious danger due to corruption and overpower of Berlusconi and right
xenophobe people in his government (Lega party). We need a big change, we need
to protect and develop our democracy in a multiethnic country!
The case of Lawyer Mills bribed by Premier Silvio Berlusconi has stopped
due bureaucratic reasons of time duration of this case.
Berlusconi lawyers are working to present new laws in the parlement to prevent him to go in
front of the court.
I forward you below information about recent cases of corruptions.
What happens is a national mobilization
of Civil Society only by Facebook and Blogs/Email/sms
since December 2009. Today demonstration
in Rome, A self financed mobilization!
To ask for EQUALITY
We would like to unify our mobilization with the Strike of foreigners working in Italy on the 1
March 2010. http://www.primomarzo2010.it/2009/12/1st-march-2010-strike-of-foreigners-in.html,
together with foreigners working in France.
Thanks for your understanding and participation!
spread these news!
All the best!
Maria Agnese Giraudo
----- Messaggio inoltrato -----
Da: Maria Agnese Giraudo <mariaagnesegiraudo@...>
A: Jeff Buderer <jeff@...>; Peter Burgess <peterbnyc@...>; christopher macrae <chris.macrae@...>; Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...>; Kennedy Owino <nafsiafricaacro@...>; Crispinus Ouma Pamba <cpambake@...>
Inviato: Gio 25 febbraio 2010, 18:16:33
Oggetto: Corruption in Italy
Some update about corruption in Italy
Mr Di Girolamo elected by Mafia to help Mafia
Corruption of Civil Protection
Money laundering by Telecom -Fastweb company 2billioneuro!!!
Is it enough?
01 I go to demonstrate for immigrates working in Italy
Please spread these news! We need to be colonized, invaded! Or we need now people inside the country have more power, like immigrants, they can push for a revolution!