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  • Benoit Couture
    Salut everyone,   It looks like we have arrived at our own version of the question of  which comes first, the chichen or the egg ?  In our case, which
    Message 1 of 5 , Aug 15, 2009
      Salut everyone,
      It looks like we have arrived at our own version of the question of "which comes first, the chichen or the egg"? 
      In our case, "which comes first, thinking or the thinker?"
      "...how and where do independent thinking and independent thinkers fit with God, sanity and genuine service to humanity?" 
      Be it on a personal level or communal or local or global or micro or macro or anywhere in between any of these dimensions and levels of human life's matural civilisation's deployment, the starting point of human's possible future begins, lives on and gets passed on from generation to generation with the Ministry of Reconciliation, which gets to be held back by the kind of traditional resistance that live at the front line of Minciu Sodas' leadership, as typically shown in the following conversation:
      At this point in this present conversation between Samwel, Dan and Andrius, there is a crying need for the Ministry of Reconciliation".  Will we all remain independent and without any authority to shape our decisions and movements?...
      ...are we going to accept the authority of the Spirit of love and truth to guide us into and through the transformation that we claim to serve?
      At this point, the way Dan and Andrius describe their seperate views of the situation, one of the skill we need to develop and to deploy, is,
      " How can we turn our own human manure into energies and/or fertilizers, into the individual gain of vitality and of direction?...
      ..." states of mind of sanctification for the assembling between the individual and the community to move within God's momentum?"
      As we seek to receive and to become the answer, we will find God calling us all with, from and to the Ministry of Reconciliation...amen to God's Yes in us all...
      ...may all blessings be with us all...
      Benoit Couture
      Edmonton, Canada

      --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...> wrote:

      From: Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...>
      Subject: [learningfromeachother] Re: learningfromeachother Samwel Kongere
      To: learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com
      Received: Friday, August 14, 2009, 10:37 PM

      Dan Otedo,

      Thank you for writing. You inform us of serious problems that you see
      in Samwel Kongere's conduct locally. He mentioned that although you had
      worked together for several years, I think rather closely, in the last
      year you had a falling out.

      Your letter is helpful because you are more concrete and specific than
      what I've read in other critiques from Africa which can be cryptic. As
      I wrote, I am keen that Samwel start a Worknets lab where he lives.
      This means that his life will be open to such critique and I will work
      with him in every way so that he can withstand it.

      Samwel has understood very well my wish to see him grow. In many
      projects, he has shown his values and interests, his questions that he's
      pursued, which I wrote about. He's provided a lot of results - I have
      learned a lot - from the small projects that he's worked on for our lab.

      My whole purpose of Minciu Sodas is to support independent thinkers like
      Samwel. I'm not here to "save the world" or worry about the poor people
      of his area. My goal is simply to allow him to participate on an equal
      footing with Franz, Janet, Benoit, Pamela and all of the other
      independent thinkers. He's valued that opportunity and contributed
      enormously to his and our own growth. He could be a criminal in jail
      and it wouldn't change much as far as Minciu Sodas is concerned.

      I was glad to meet Samwel in London and happy that Pamela McLean and
      Maria Agnese Giraudo have enjoyed meeting him in Africa. Certainly, he
      has been key in getting us going in Tanzania. I don't think he's
      perfect, but over the years he's responded well to my critiques of him.
      He's asked very little of me and created a lot of value and also focused
      on his dreams rather than just go where money might pull him.

      Whereas I know practically nothing about you or your values. Minciu
      Sodas is a place for investigation. What are questions that you don't
      know the answer to, but wish to answer? What is your plan of investigation?

      Dan, thank you for bringing out this conversation. Perhaps others will
      write as you say they can. For me, the relevance is, do we want to work
      together? Please know that Samwel is central to my own activity in
      Africa. As a leader of a Worknets lab, he agrees to be open to include
      and support all investigators, and I and ultimately others will support
      his leadership.

      Dan, I don't see any faith or interest on your part that Samwel grow as
      a leader. If you don't, then I think it's fair that he not include you
      in Mendenyo. The purpose of that group is to support his growth as a

      I encourage us to write if we have any problems working with Samwel. In
      some cases, we might be able to work together to improve the situation.
      In others, we might work around him. Samwel's lab is an outgrowth of
      our work together and his leadership at Minciu Sodas over the years.
      It's not based on his standing in his local community, which I hope
      flourishes, but rather his standing in our online community, or simply
      him and me.

      Thank you,


      Andrius Kulikauskas
      Minciu Sodas
      http://www.ms. lt
      +370 699 30003
      Dukiskes, Lithuania

      Community projects we work to promote need something more than an array
      of interesting anecdotes peddled by impostors who for long have assumed
      savoir-faire position in our communities. It is interesting that ICT’s
      offer this unbridled opportunity, making many good intentioned but
      gullible benefactors be ensnared by the overtures by people they have
      blindly trusted.

      This in my view, does not institutionalize solution giving initiatives.
      May be our information ecosystem is configured to predominantly address
      ‘what’ of the past performance. This has the risk of making us spend a
      disproportionate amount of time and resources focused on the rearview

      There however is the option of having a visibility what lies ahead. That
      is why insights are essential. Insights work similar to headlights that
      illuminate the road ahead to reduce risks and potential hazards.

      Thought I have not been particularly asked to work in a particular way
      and would have very much loved to work within the perimeters you have
      stipulated, the conflicts in our value systems(sadly at times ) make it
      almost impossible for us to work like you have recommended.

      You have rightly used the word catalyst in referring to Sam Kongere.I do
      not begrudge that, except when the catalyst destroys itself in a
      reaction. I have been to Rusinga Island countless times, the last one
      being when Suba youth resource Centre Hosted a team of Six Educators
      from Teachers without borders Canada. If all those from the Mbita region
      as Jactone Arijah, Peter Ongele, Peter Ogweno of Mina Academy,Francis
      Opiyo and Ken Onyango of CISSO and the youths of Suba youth Resource
      centre like Paul Oduor,Beatrice Ayalo,Steve Wanga, Sale Diella among
      others will testify to having seen a single Community Acess centre set
      up by Samuel Kongere ,then I will willingly and voluntarily quit the MS
      lab as I shall have outlived my usefulness here. Perhaps it is for the
      same reason I never able to send or receive steams from Mendenyo…. By
      being unsubscribed!

      But why do I fight? Whom do I fight for? Samuel Kongere has to account
      for thousands of shillings given to him by a benefactor on behalf of the
      Suba Youth Resource Centre and some for Nyamuga Acess point. I have had
      a heck of time more than a year,restraining the youth at Suba Youth
      resource Centre from taking law into their hands as much as we have been
      patient of not instituting a fraud case against Sam. We are ready to do
      this any moment now.

      But the point here is, to what degree has our reporting enhanced
      efficiency and value in the ecosystem that is the communities we work
      in? I challenge Sam, give Suba centre its monies and also to get me back
      in mendenyo. However, I doubt he would do either, which leaves SYRC with
      one option.

      Alas, the issue of community impact accountancy and audit of our work
      remains a thorn in the flesh for many of us, as seen in the arrogance by
      with which we sometimes trivialize such issues. I have seen and talked
      to several of the MS lab members in Mbita who are in the loop about this
      issue. While some feel that we should leave this matter and consign it
      into the graveyard of the forgotten, I have ready answers to give to the
      frauded Suba Centre in whose name the monies were given.

      The Suba Youth Resource Centre will not to be dwarfed by unnecessary
      hiccups caused by inappropriate conduct by a Sam Kongere. Our resolve to
      work as a team has the increased insight of making us make decisions
      faster, plan effectively and facilitate growth in our community.Have a
      fraudless day.
      Dan Andrew Otedo.
      SYC/OHR/Kenya ICT Trust Fund
      P.O Box 18 code 40305.Cell phone :+254720366094.

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    • kayiwa fred
      I appreciate Your Everyone s effort here, I rely appreciate the way MS LAB is growing and making people grow as Independent Thinkers as well as getting
      Message 2 of 5 , Aug 15, 2009
        I appreciate Your Everyone's effort here,
        I rely appreciate the way MS LAB is growing and making people grow as Independent Thinkers as well as getting Friendships who are teaching each other.

        I request all Ugandans on here to cheer up and come with as many friends as possible to make Sam kongere's leadership strong,
        I will be very happy to continue working under Kogere's Leadership

        --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...> wrote:

        From: Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...>
        Subject: [learningfromeachother] Worknets labs: Andrius, Samwel, Franz
        To: socialagriculture@yahoogroups.com, minciu_sodas_EN@yahoogroups.com, "learningfromeachother" <learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com>, learnhowtolearn@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 2:45 PM


        I share my thoughts on the future of our Worknets culture after phone
        conversations with Franz Nahrada, Samwel Kongere, Leon Benjamin and
        Ricardo. I also hope to talk with Edward Cherlin, Janet Feldman, Pamela
        McLean, Benoit Couture, Josephat Ndibalema and others who have and will
        participate actively. I also encourage us to write.

        In 1998, I founded the Minciu Sodas laboratory for independent thinkers
        http://www.ms. lt More recently, I have started work to foster Worknets,
        an entire culture of independent thinkers http://www.worknets .org

        Samwel and Franz reaffirmed commitments that we made in London that each
        of us lead a Worknets laboratory. Each of us will develop our local
        presence along with our global network for a culture of investigation.

        Samwel lives in Rusinga Island, Kenya in Lake Victoria. He's the first
        person in Africa with whom I did $100 projects and he lead a team for
        our largest work, My Food Story. He's catalyzed the strong network
        that we have in Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda. His deepest value is
        "motivation through sacrifice" and he leads our working group Mendenyo
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mendenyo/ which means "men without food"
        as in "let's not eat everything today, but invest in a better
        tomorrow". Samwel would walk 5 km to the Internet and inspired our
        making best use of marginal Internet access. He worked with Ricardo and
        others to expand Internet access in his region and try out Wifi
        solutions. Samwel works with a group of women to foster a good life in
        the countryside and avert migration to the urban slums. He champions a
        knowledge-based approach to keep learning while solving problems. His
        current focus is sustainable agriculture and tourism.

        Franz lives and works at his family's Hotel Karolinenhof in Vienna,
        Austria. Franz is the first independent thinker that I organized us
        around. He leads our first such working group, Global Villages
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/globalvill ages/ His deepest value is
        "recognizing efficacies", which is to say, how things fit together
        well. Franz has a long history as a visionary thinker and social
        networker for rediscovering villages as the natural places for nurturing
        the human spirit, soul, mind and body. He leads the lab GIVE, Globally
        Integrated Village Environment http://www.give. at He champions a
        knowledge society based on futuristic libraries, coworking centers,
        video bridges, online communities, regional information coaches,
        do-it-yourself technologies and open source economics. Franz has links
        to many parts of Austria and Germany and dreams of living in a monastery
        of the future.

        I live in the village of Dukiskes, Lithuania with the family of Zenonas
        and Audrone Anusauskas. My deepest value is "living by truth" and since
        childhood I'm on a quest to know everything and apply that usefully.
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livingbytr uth/ Next week I'll upload a 10
        minute video summary of my philosophical work which I hope will make my
        work more approachable. This year I've developed my creative talents in
        drawing, painting, sculpture, video and earlier in song, music, poetry
        and drama. I would like to apply my philosophical skills to foster
        Worknets as a creative culture. I was born to a Lithuanian family in
        California. I moved to Lithuania in 1997 and soon established Minciu
        Sodas as my business to serve and organize independent thinkers like
        myself and all of us. I look forward to putting down more roots in the
        Lithuanian countryside, most likely fostering a network of bases and
        then settle down amongst them, hopefully some day with a family.

        Our three laboratories will be exercises in bringing our dreams to
        life. They are centers for an economy of dreams which I am organizing.
        I invite us to keep writing about them. We have inspiring dreams and we
        can all support and embolden each other. We will find ways to share
        resources, open opportunities and build relationships. Please share
        your dreams, make them real along with our labs, and consider starting
        your own lab, so that Worknets is a network of labs.

        Each lab represents a commitment to share our life's dream. This
        includes a focus on developing a local base from which we live and work
        and enjoy life. It includes local friendships and a thriving creative
        culture. It means being open and supportive to all locally who might
        grow by pursuing questions they don't know the answer to, but wish to
        answer. It also means likewise being active globally in the area of our
        focus, which might be sustainability (Samwel), global villages (Franz),
        conceptual frameworks, especially for our culture (Andrius).

        We will be recognizing and defining our culture's expectations as we go
        along. This should free us to act as leaders wherever we dedicate
        ourselves. Our labs are natural hubs for global networks that we might
        all try to leverage. For example, Samwel's lab means that I will look
        to him for leadership how to support our African participants. Franz's
        lab means that I will look to him for leadership in organizing Global
        villages network, vision and strategy. I have done that, more or less,
        in the past, but now we will have a basis for making explicit who to
        look to for strategic leadership, and the reason why, which is the
        integrity they foster through their commitment of sharing their life's
        dream in the form of an open laboratory that all might participate in.
        I believe that a network of labs will make clear to us all our own
        commitments (which are often shaped by our life's circumstances, as in
        Janet's case) and open up roles, not only as lab leaders, but also as
        investigators, networkers and many more (please design your own!) In
        defining our labs, we are defining the integrity that makes real our
        Worknets culture, and that can radiate out to touch the many networks
        that we participate in, so that we may truly thrive in a sharing culture.

        I ask us to give a special boost to Samwel's work because we have the
        possibility for a real success that will shape our understanding of what
        our labs can be. Tom Ochuka wrote to us about his business idea for
        hand carts to draw water. Samwel and I now ask Tom to write about the
        investigatory questions that this project might answer for him. Tom's
        project is relevant for us if it reflects what he wants to learn. Tom
        agreed that we provide a loan. I would like us to organize around
        Samwel a group of such investigators like Dennis Kimambo, Peter Ongele
        and others who might also agree on how to share resources, typically in
        the form of loans or small bits of work. I will write more about this

        I spoke also with Leon Benjamin for whom we worked on behalf of
        Mornflake cereal http://www.mornflak e.com He's happy with our work and
        I'll write a case study. Leon is the rare person who broke the
        corporate wall for us. Stuart Oliver of Clean Tech Scotland is another
        such person who values our team's potential. We should consult and
        think how to find more such people and treasure them, including John
        Caswell who we met in London, and whose consulting methodology I want to
        work out a Public Domain version of, as we discussed. I also need to
        train our team so that we're skilled at helping as online assistants and
        engaging online communities. We can practice further on behalf of
        Mornflake. I also will be improving our websites and we should involve
        or train more developers.

        I also ask us to think about the future of learning for adults, young
        and old. What will the university of the future be like, especially for
        self-motivated learners? I want to contribute to Edward Cherlin's
        initiative Earth Treasury to create open source textbooks. These
        questions are very relevant for COMMUNIA, especially the June 28-30,
        2010 meeting in Torino, Italy. I ask us to be active in these matters
        so that we might have much to contribute when we come together.

        I am excited for our culture. I ask you to share likewise what it might
        be. What are your dreams? and how might we be a part of them?


        Andrius Kulikauskas
        Minciu Sodas
        http://www.ms. lt
        +370 699 30003
        Dukiskes, Lithuania

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