Re: [learningfromeachother] Re: [mendenyo] Children Education for nomadic fishermen
- This seems to be a possible application for OLPC XOs, which have a
wireless range of 2 km with a clear line of site, and which mesh
together to extend the network to as many as are in range of the
Yes, the starting point is to ask parents and children what they want.
Marine biology? Global economics? How to get out of fishing and into
more profitable businesses? How to get into the fish processing and
packaging business? Boatbuilding? Making CDs of fishermen's songs? How
the governments that they deal with operate?
Or, backing up a bit, literacy, math, learning how to learn, learning
how to work together?
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Pamela McLean <pam54321@...> wrote:
> Interesting thread! I agree that the key issue is what do the parents want
> for their children?
> Also - did they miss out on education?
> If so - do they regret having missed out?
> If so - is the content they would like for their children something that
> they would also like for themselves?
> Would they like to learn alongside the children (or a bit ahead of the
> Are we looking at basic numeracy and literacy?
> What is the context in which they need to use numeracy and literacy - i.e if
> adults were to bother to improve their own literacy and numeracy what
> benefit would it bring them?
> What would they need to learn first if the learning was to bring practical
> benefit - i.e. Numeracy for what purpose? Reading for what purpose? Writing
> for what purpose?
> What kind of education would suit these children (with regards to content)?
> What kind of education would suit these children (with regards to how it is
> We should not be limited in our ideas because of what we think we know about
> schools. We only know about the kind of schools that were designed for 19th
> century and 21st century. This is 21 century. We can reinvent the ways we
> learn and teach now because we can communicate in new ways.
> 2008/9/7 Peter Burgess <peterbNYC@...>
>> Dear Peter
>> I tried to answer this question in connection with some work in the
>> Horn of Africa associated with the post famine reconstruction. The
>> population were Somali nomadic pastoralists.
>> My colleagues (that is international experts) thought that educational
>> radio would be a good answer and tried to put together a program for
>> this to be used. It seemed to make sense ... except that it had been
>> tried before and had not worked.
>> During the travel associated with this work I reached a lot of very
>> remote places and visited a lot of camps where the nomadic pastoral
>> community was living ... before moving on to new water and new grazing
>> ... and I learned something. While the children were not getting
>> access to the government curriculum ... they were getting religious
>> education ... and it was done very well by a travelling teacher.
>> These pastoral communities "pulled in" something they understood to be
>> important, and solved the problem. Where the solution came from ... I
>> do not know ... but it made an impression on me. The children did not
>> learn maths and science ... but they did learn the Koran ... and it
>> was done well.
>> My guess is that families that must move because of economics would
>> welcome an initiative that made it possible for their children to be
>> educated ... at a very low affordable cost. Teaching does not have to
>> be done in a classroom ... it can be done in many ways (home schooling
>> comes to mind).
>> For me the big first question is to understand what stage of interest
>> the parents have ... and how much they want to solve the problem. If
>> they want something, it is much easier!
>> In haste
>> Peter Burgess
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>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 5:16 AM, peter ongele <peterongele@...>
>> > Dear All,
>> > Janet, Dan Otedo , Pamella and many others specialised in
>> > EDUCATIONS...I've
>> > one question in my life that I've not been able to digest.
>> > ....is there ever a system developed that can fit the nomadic life style
>> > like the nomadic pastoralists, fishermen etc...... when one would visit
>> > the
>> > fish beach centres in our place here, you would be sadden with the high
>> > number of children who do not go to school taking upto 65% of children
>> > in
>> > the age of going to school....if you go to their lifes history , you
>> > would
>> > find that within a year given families must have moved through 3 to 6
>> > fish
>> > centre beaches in such of fish....they can't afford to leave their
>> > children
>> > behind to continue with school. Children not also able to coop with the
>> > syllabus system in the country....as a result, most children remain home
>> > to
>> > assist their parents in the fishing activities for boys and girls to
>> > assist
>> > their mothers in the house hold activities.....life continues, early
>> > marriages consoles the lifes of these families.
>> > What can we do...what should we offer to these innocent children to move
>> > togather with the rest of world families....establish homes for them,
>> > develop special system of educating them, develop special system of
>> > training
>> > to teachers who can teach them.
>> > As we talk of girl child education, let us think also of these
>> > imaginalised
>> > group of children who go unnoticed in lifes. I think they also need our
>> > attention. They need help...whenever we talk of rural communities they
>> > become imaginalised because mostly they are somehowly foreigners with in
>> > given different communities who lessly recognise them in the community
>> > developments.
>> > Good time as we contribute to this subject.
>> > Peter Ongele.
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