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Re: [mendenyo] Re: I desagree with Andrius behavior with POP

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  • Maria Agnese Giraudo
    Please Andrius, Pam and Ken, I would like to understand this issue. I know that you have talked about it in Vilnius. I m very available to call you or chat
    Message 1 of 4 , Apr 9, 2008
      Please Andrius, Pam and Ken,
      I would like to understand this issue. I know that you have talked about it in Vilnius. I'm very available to call you or chat with you together or separately in the way that you desire to undestand at least what you have shared about PoP registration!
      All the best!
      Maria Agnese

      Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...> ha scritto:
      Maria Agnese,

      What do you mean when you say "knowing privately that PoP have been
      registerd as some kind of organization in Lithuania without requiring
      the authorization of POP members"?

      Here are the facts as I know them:
      * There is NO organization of any kind that is registered as "Pyramid of
      * There is no formal membership in "Pyramid of Peace".
      * All activity of the "Pyramid of Peace" is informal and takes place as
      a project of the "Minciu Sodas" laboratory.
      * Andrius Kulikauskas takes full responsibility for this project and may
      share responsibility with Dennis Kimambo, Kennedy Owino and Rachel
      Wambui Kungu, and may consult with others.
      * Money donated by PayPal to ms@... for "Pyramid of Peace" work takes
      place through the Minciu Sodas laboratory.
      * Minciu Sodas is a sole proprietorship registered in 1998 in Vilnius,
      Lithuania. Andrius Kulikauskas is the sole proprietor.
      * Andrius Kulikauskas is the owner of the website
      http://www.pyramido fpeace.net
      * A full account of money received and distributed by Andrius
      Kulikauskas is at: http://www.pyramido fpeace.net/ timebanks/ report.php


      Andrius Kulikauskas
      Minciu Sodas
      http://www.ms. lt
      +370 699 30003
      Vilnius, Lithuania

      Maria Agnese Giraudo wrote:
      > Dear Andrius and all,
      > I have recognized the good initiatives Andrius has undertaken and I
      > got many benefits from Andrius and Minciu Sodas Laboratory, I met so
      > many interesting and good people, I got many interesting and inspiring
      > ideas and I could participate to Communia Project.
      > Nevertheless I have been tempted to stop my participation in a
      > supposed open way of working together, after knowing privately that
      > PoP have been registerd as some kind of organization in Lithuania
      > without requiring the authorization of POP members. I don't agree with
      > such approach and behavior of Andrius. I have decided to stay in
      > the MInciu Sodas Laboratory until there are people I collaborate with
      > and to express my fee thinking and disagreement. I hope Andrius will
      > change this strategy in the future. In any case I go on in the
      > collaborating as before with grassroot organizarions in Kenya and
      > Tanzania out of Minciu Sodas Laboratory and I'm very available to
      > stay in touch with real independet thinkers!
      > I wish Andrius a great change!
      > Maria Agnese
      > */Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...>/* ha scritto:
      > I share my thoughts as founder of Minciu Sodas http://www.ms. lt
      > <http://www.ms. lt/> and
      > leader of Pyramid of Peace http://www.pyramido fpeace.net
      > <http://www.pyramido fpeace.net/> regarding our
      > work these next 10 years to bring forth a culture of independent
      > thinkers by which our minds shape every aspect of our world.
      > Last week we came together as independent thinkers in Vilnius,
      > Lithuania
      > to organize the COMMUNIA workshop Ethical Public Domain: Debate of
      > Questionable Practices. We took the opportunity to celebrate each
      > other
      > and 10 years together as the Minciu Sodas laboratory. Thank you to
      > Nafsi Afrika Acrobats and Drummers (Kennedy, James, Simon, Levi,
      > Reagan,
      > Job, Victor, Geoffrey, Michael, Kenneth) for your generous gift of
      > amazing shows (Butrimonys village, Neringa restaurant, Labas Rytas
      > television show, Uzhupis Day, Panevezys school for the deaf) and for
      > your thoughtful debate at our workshop. Thank you to our members from
      > Europe who welcomed them: Pamela, Agnese, Theresa, Eric, Markus,
      > Didzis,
      > Dante. Thank you to Janet, Sasha, Fred, Ricardo, Benoit, Surya,
      > Prosper
      > and all who joined us virtually. Thank you to Irena, Thomas, Zenonas
      > and all of our Lithuanian team. This was truly a coming together
      > for us.
      > I had the chance to speak for two hours with Kennedy Owino and Pamela
      > McLean as we drove up to Panevezys. Kennedy affirmed his support
      > for my
      > leadership with full authority for the Pyramid of Peace
      > http://www.pyramido fpeace.net <http://www.pyramido fpeace.net/> as
      > an activity within the Minciu Sodas
      > laboratory http://www.ms. lt <http://www.ms. lt/> and as part of a
      > broader movement of
      > independent thinkers. Pamela helped me consider such a movement the
      > next several days on our road trip through Latvia and Lithuania. I
      > also
      > spoke today by phone with Rachel Wambui Kungu, Dennis Kimambo and
      > Lawrence Achami. They welcome my leadership and my wish to focus
      > on our
      > long term work for a culture of independent thinkers.
      > As independent thinkers, we know what it is like to stand up to the
      > world all by ourselves, and yet we know we are not alone. We are the
      > same deep inside. We can understand each other's private language. We
      > can remake our world to nurture the ever unfolding growth of the
      > people
      > we truly are. I imagine three stages:
      > 1998 to 2007: Lab) We have created a haven to support and foster a
      > wide
      > variety of independent thinkers. We have more than 100 active and
      > 1,000
      > supportive participants. We help them engage and involve more minds,
      > weave together a society so their dreams become real, make a
      > living and
      > earn money for their projects, clarify their values, pursue their
      > investigations, advance their endeavors, make friends, grow as
      > leaders,
      > and flourish with moral support.
      > 2008 to 2017 ?: Culture) We now work to establish a culture that
      > would
      > allow independent thinkers to apply themselves to every aspect of
      > life.
      > I imagine 100,000 active and 1,000,000 supportive participants, as
      > if we
      > were a diaspora, yet I hope we might be the dominant culture in at
      > least
      > one small country like Lithuania so that we might make evident our
      > impact, our love and care. Around the world, we would have many local
      > groups, and many global villages, and many traveling
      > self-learners, and
      > festivals as well, and we would set the world's policy on certain key
      > issues such as the Public Domain, pattern languages, interfaith
      > dialogue, open economy, inclusion and peacemaking. We would foster
      > enormous creative talents to apply eternal themes for positive
      > impact.
      > We would fall in love, raise children, be together young and old. We
      > would make tangible all of our values. We would have many havens,
      > many
      > labs, and we will not need any particular person (like me) to lead
      > because so many leaders would understand our culture. We would
      > include
      > old and bring forth young who are always encouraged as independent
      > thinkers.
      > 2018 ? to 2027 ?: Ethic) We may some day find our way of life to
      > be an
      > ethic which is profound for people of all cultures, much like
      > Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Confucianism, Communism, Capitalism or
      > Science. We might have 100,000,000 active and 1,000,000,000
      > supportive
      > participants, which is to say, all people might be within reach of an
      > independent thinker who is a bridge to many other such. I think we
      > might discover a universal language of concepts by which we can
      > express
      > our values, questions, endeavors and all of our ideas. We might be
      > able
      > to organize ourselves for any global challenge. We might live in a
      > world where all truth is known, available and tangible. We might
      > appreciate each other's personal languages, intuitions and
      > talents. We
      > might understand how to engage God and share our world with God.
      > We have many talents. I believe they are for the sake of all.
      > There is
      > a tension between cultivating our own talents and serving the
      > needs of
      > others. Yet I believe that we wish for each of us that we might all
      > apply ourselves to our fullest. And if we do not grow ourselves, then
      > we will quickly find ourselves lost and lead others astray.
      > Therefore I
      > encourage us to develop ourselves, to nurture, foster, cultivate our
      > gifts, for this is our culture. Everywhere we go let us find those
      > who
      > we might support likewise amongst the displaced persons, the deaf,
      > the
      > women, the youth, the children, the illiterate, the sick, the
      > forgotten. We do not have to help the masses, but rather we can make
      > friends with all manner of people, and they will lead us to
      > others, and
      > we will all be ready to respond as we have in Kenya. We started with
      > Samwel Kongere and how many friends we have made!
      > We are ever encouraging ourselves to think about our:
      > * Values: What is your deepest value which includes all of your other
      > values?
      > * Questions: What is a question that you don't know the answer to,
      > but
      > wish to answer?
      > * Endeavors: What would you like to achieve?
      > Questions play a special role in our culture, and indeed it is a
      > "culture of investigation" . I encourage us to be comfortable living
      > with unanswered questions, allowing them to multiply, considering
      > several lines of thinking at one time, thinking-out- loud and
      > working-in-parallel . This is where I will encourage us to place our
      > energy for this is the positive work that I think we do for our own
      > sake. We can have many small projects. We will collect and share
      > personal experiences, stories, ideas, perspectives as a foundation
      > for
      > answering our questions. We should try to be self-sustainable. We can
      > share resources with each other - computers, travel, paid work. We
      > have
      > our own inner economy. We also do work for clients who wish to
      > mobilize
      > our good energy and are happy to meet each other half way, as was the
      > case with My Food Story, the Global Utopias video bridges and with
      > the
      > COMMUNIA workshop. We will learn to investigate, to ask questions and
      > find answers. We will ever grow mature as we care to help each other
      > grow. There is no end of the creative energy that our questions can
      > unleash.
      > We will also engage the world. We will pursue endeavors, but let us
      > keep in mind why we do. We ask questions for our own sake, whereas
      > each
      > endeavor has a purpose beyond itself, and so where does it lead? At
      > best, an endeavor helps us reach out to include others, and at best,
      > helps us to care about them and take up their questions. So let us be
      > careful with our endeavors, why we are doing them, and let us take
      > our
      > time to include everybody as we pursue them. And let us be
      > compelled by
      > our inner drive, just as Agnese and Sasha and Janet and Asif
      > compelled
      > us on January 1, 2008 to care for our fellow Kenyans. Let our values
      > be the reason that we engage the world. They are what we would
      > like to
      > establish in our culture and pass on to future generations. Here
      > we are
      > giving of ourselves without reservation, just as we would for our
      > child,
      > much as we all did in Kenya.
      > When we are driven by our values to engage the world, then we can be
      > effective in the world, just as we were with the Pyramid of Peace. We
      > can pursue all manner of endeavors. We can participate in the outer
      > economy which is outside of our culture. We can recognize our enemy
      > and love them. We can invest in them, but only to the extent that
      > they
      > will walk with us, that they will work with us to include others as
      > well. We can identify corporations that we might invest ourselves in,
      > that might benefit as we connect with the independent thinkers
      > amongst
      > their workers, customers, shareholders, that might appreciate our
      > scrutiny and concern. They might invest in us that we reach out to
      > include others, that we lay the groundwork for emergency response,
      > and
      > that we have the resources to act in the event of a catastrophe,
      > which
      > is where we excelled in Kenya and generated much social capital.
      > However, I think that all of this is secondary for us to our
      > dedication
      > to our own culture, our own gifts, our own talents, which are so
      > huge,
      > and which is what we wish to share.
      > I therefore call a retreat of the Pyramid of Peace whereby each
      > peacemaker finds themselves, their voice, their questions and is
      > able to
      > be at peace with them. We are ready to come together at any time. But
      > I ask us to share our questions and to help each other and to be
      > led by
      > our questions to make friends with those beyond us, the displaced,
      > the
      > troubled, the deaf, the women, the marginalized, and the thinkers
      > trapped behind the corporate walls. We are laying down the web of
      > relationships that will spring to life when the day comes. And
      > even now
      > there are peacemakers such as Lawrence Achami for whom we should
      > uncover
      > more support. Yet even so my first priority is that we all grow
      > openly
      > and thereby encourage each other.
      > I have shared what I can make of this movement. We have so far to go!
      > I am grateful to Ricardo for his wonderful example as an investigator
      > and to Kiyavilo Msekwa likewise. Thank you also to Kenneth Chelimo
      > and
      > all for your letters and the growth you make evident. I leave us with
      > the question, What is a question that you don't know the answer
      > to, but
      > wish to answer?
      > Let us ask and look where the questions take us!
      > Andrius
      > Andrius Kulikauskas
      > Minciu Sodas http://www.ms. lt <http://www.ms. lt/>
      > Pyramid of Peace http://www.pyramido fpeace.net
      > <http://www.pyramido fpeace.net/>
      > +370 699 30003
      > skype: minciusodas
      > Vilnius, Lithuania
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