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  • bananawoman
    Instead of the Bishop how about talking to your Bishopric advisor over YW. Then he can take it to Bishopric meeting. ... From: shanon To:
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      Instead of the Bishop how about talking to your Bishopric advisor over YW. Then he can take it to Bishopric meeting.
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      From: shanon
      To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary


      Seek your Bishops Counsel
      JMHO
      Love
      Shay

      bcmam wrote:

      > Hi ladies,
      >
      > When I was called as YW Pres, I left the secretary in that was serving
      > with
      > the previous presidency mostly because she hadn't even been in there
      > for a
      > year and the bishop recommended I keep her in there. However, I
      > rarely see
      > her, she hasn't made it to one pres. mtg. we've had, she can't come to
      >
      > mutual because her husband works nights, and I've given her a couple
      > of
      > assignments to see where she'd go with it, and so far she hasn't done
      > either
      > assignment. My struggle is, that she is very borderline to being less
      >
      > active and I'm worried if I release her, that will be the reason for
      > her to
      > stop coming to church all together. My two counselors have been
      > wonderful,
      > but they both work and are very busy so I feel very limited on how
      > much I
      > can delegate to them. I have really felt the need for my secretary to
      > step
      > up to the plate and carry some of the load, but not sure how to
      > approach her
      > without offending or scaring her away. Any suggestions on how to
      > handle
      > this?


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    • Richard Villamor
      Isn t the Bishop s top priority the youth? ... From: bananawoman To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Re:
      Message 2 of 29 , Apr 4 8:47 PM
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        Isn't the Bishop's top priority the youth?
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: bananawoman
        To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:20 PM
        Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary


        Instead of the Bishop how about talking to your Bishopric advisor over YW. Then he can take it to Bishopric meeting.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: shanon
        To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:27 PM
        Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary


        Seek your Bishops Counsel
        JMHO
        Love
        Shay

        bcmam wrote:

        > Hi ladies,
        >
        > When I was called as YW Pres, I left the secretary in that was serving
        > with
        > the previous presidency mostly because she hadn't even been in there
        > for a
        > year and the bishop recommended I keep her in there. However, I
        > rarely see
        > her, she hasn't made it to one pres. mtg. we've had, she can't come to
        >
        > mutual because her husband works nights, and I've given her a couple
        > of
        > assignments to see where she'd go with it, and so far she hasn't done
        > either
        > assignment. My struggle is, that she is very borderline to being less
        >
        > active and I'm worried if I release her, that will be the reason for
        > her to
        > stop coming to church all together. My two counselors have been
        > wonderful,
        > but they both work and are very busy so I feel very limited on how
        > much I
        > can delegate to them. I have really felt the need for my secretary to
        > step
        > up to the plate and carry some of the load, but not sure how to
        > approach her
        > without offending or scaring her away. Any suggestions on how to
        > handle
        > this?


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      • bcmam
        Thanks for all the wonderful advice and suggestions from each of you on how to best approach the issue about my secretary. I really do think that it may be
        Message 3 of 29 , Apr 4 9:13 PM
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          Thanks for all the wonderful advice and suggestions from each of you on how
          to best approach the issue about my secretary. I really do think that it
          may be something I bring up with my bishop in my next PPI--hopefully he can
          give some counsel or knows something I don't regarding this sister. Thanks!
        • Freddie & Jennifer Millner
          We don t have that many girls.....almost all of them (with the exception of I think about 3 or 4) are active. We have about a total of 13 each week. I know
          Message 4 of 29 , Apr 4 9:34 PM
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            We don't have that many girls.....almost all of them (with the exception of
            I think about 3 or 4) are active. We have about a total of 13 each week. I
            know that doesn't sound like many, but regardless of the number you have,
            you still have to teach them each Sunday and be there for them each
            Wednesday. I love the girls...and I do know them all personally......my
            sister is in Young Womens and my younger sister will come in July.
            I'm pregnant right now with my first child...and sometimes I have to
            admit...it's overwhelming. My husband is Ward Clerk and goes to the
            meetings, etc. Maybe I will see if he can petition for some helpers for us!

            Jenn
            -----Original Message-----
            From: pam fisher [mailto:carmel@...]
            Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:07 PM
            To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] Advisors


            My hat goes off to you. How do you do it all? We have such a big ward that I
            guess they try to find callings for everyone who the Lord feels needs one.
            Pam
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Freddie & Jennifer Millner" <fjmillner@...>
            To: <lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:06 AM
            Subject: [lds-youngwomen] Advisors


            > I have noticed that several of you have commented about advisors...do most
            > of you have them? In our ward we have a President and First and Second
            > counselor...and that's it. We do all the teaching, all the activities,
            etc.
            > Just curious if there are others out there that do it this way also?
            >
            > Jenn
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Kurt R Lott [mailto:klhlott@...]
            > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:57 AM
            > To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary
            >
            >
            > My YW secretary has been completely inactive to very active. It just
            > depends on her, but I feel that is what my secretary position is there
            for.
            > When she is on the ball, it's fantastic, when she is not, I survive just
            > fine. I really care about her & feel this is my way to be able to do
            > missionary work. She has made it very clear that she doesn't want to
            leave
            > YW & so as long as I'm president, she won't. It would be a blessing to
            have
            > a completely active staff in my ward, so I'm happy with what I've got.
            That
            > hardest thing for me is that my beehive advisor is not active & I don't
            have
            > a miamaid advisor still. I hope you figure out what is best for this gal.
            > Leslie
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          • heiner@freeport.com
            We have the presidency, advisors for each class and 2 specialists that help with special programs. We all attend Sundays and weeknights so that we can be
            Message 5 of 29 , Apr 5 8:29 AM
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              We have the presidency, advisors for each class and 2 specialists that help
              with special programs. We all attend Sundays and weeknights so that we can
              be close to the girls. I think it can't hurt the girls at all to have more
              leaders if they are available to call. The more people who love you, the
              better, and the more leaders there are, the more likely a girl will find one
              that they feel close enough to to talk to when they need help.

              > We don't have that many girls.....almost all of them (with the exception
              of
              > I think about 3 or 4) are active. We have about a total of 13 each week.
              I
              > know that doesn't sound like many, but regardless of the number you have,
              > you still have to teach them each Sunday and be there for them each
              > Wednesday. I love the girls...and I do know them all personally......my
              > sister is in Young Womens and my younger sister will come in July.
              > I'm pregnant right now with my first child...and sometimes I have to
              > admit...it's overwhelming. My husband is Ward Clerk and goes to the
              > meetings, etc. Maybe I will see if he can petition for some helpers for
              us!
              >
              > Jenn
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: pam fisher [mailto:carmel@...]
              > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:07 PM
              > To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] Advisors
              >
              >
              > My hat goes off to you. How do you do it all? We have such a big ward that
              I
              > guess they try to find callings for everyone who the Lord feels needs one.
              > Pam
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: "Freddie & Jennifer Millner" <fjmillner@...>
              > To: <lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:06 AM
              > Subject: [lds-youngwomen] Advisors
              >
              >
              > > I have noticed that several of you have commented about advisors...do
              most
              > > of you have them? In our ward we have a President and First and Second
              > > counselor...and that's it. We do all the teaching, all the activities,
              > etc.
              > > Just curious if there are others out there that do it this way also?
              > >
              > > Jenn
              > > -----Original Message-----
              > > From: Kurt R Lott [mailto:klhlott@...]
              > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:57 AM
              > > To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary
              > >
              > >
              > > My YW secretary has been completely inactive to very active. It just
              > > depends on her, but I feel that is what my secretary position is there
              > for.
              > > When she is on the ball, it's fantastic, when she is not, I survive just
              > > fine. I really care about her & feel this is my way to be able to do
              > > missionary work. She has made it very clear that she doesn't want to
              > leave
              > > YW & so as long as I'm president, she won't. It would be a blessing to
              > have
              > > a completely active staff in my ward, so I'm happy with what I've got.
              > That
              > > hardest thing for me is that my beehive advisor is not active & I don't
              > have
              > > a miamaid advisor still. I hope you figure out what is best for this
              gal.
              > > Leslie
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            • bananawoman
              Yes, the Bishop s top priority should be the youth, however, he has 2 counselors, one of which should be assigned stewardship over the young women. As a young
              Message 6 of 29 , Apr 5 8:38 AM
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                Yes, the Bishop's top priority should be the youth, however, he has 2 counselors, one of which should be assigned stewardship over the young women. As a young woman president, one should follow the priesthood line of authority. Thus, taking your problems to your Bishopric counselor, and letting him talk with the Bishop. If everyone talks to the Bishop directly with their individual problems, it takes up a great deal of his time. The church is organized in such a way that if we were to follow our line of authority a great deal more could be accomplished in a lot less time. I don't mean to step on anyone's feelings, I'm just trying to offer some food for thought. As sisters in leaderhship positions, we have a responsibility to recognize and follow the proper order of things.
                CW
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Richard Villamor
                To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:47 PM
                Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary


                Isn't the Bishop's top priority the youth?
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: bananawoman
                To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:20 PM
                Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary


                Instead of the Bishop how about talking to your Bishopric advisor over YW. Then he can take it to Bishopric meeting.
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: shanon
                To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:27 PM
                Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] secretary


                Seek your Bishops Counsel
                JMHO
                Love
                Shay

                bcmam wrote:

                > Hi ladies,
                >
                > When I was called as YW Pres, I left the secretary in that was serving
                > with
                > the previous presidency mostly because she hadn't even been in there
                > for a
                > year and the bishop recommended I keep her in there. However, I
                > rarely see
                > her, she hasn't made it to one pres. mtg. we've had, she can't come to
                >
                > mutual because her husband works nights, and I've given her a couple
                > of
                > assignments to see where she'd go with it, and so far she hasn't done
                > either
                > assignment. My struggle is, that she is very borderline to being less
                >
                > active and I'm worried if I release her, that will be the reason for
                > her to
                > stop coming to church all together. My two counselors have been
                > wonderful,
                > but they both work and are very busy so I feel very limited on how
                > much I
                > can delegate to them. I have really felt the need for my secretary to
                > step
                > up to the plate and carry some of the load, but not sure how to
                > approach her
                > without offending or scaring her away. Any suggestions on how to
                > handle
                > this?


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              • werpancheris@AOL.com
                We are in a branch and have 9 girls. We only have a Pres. and two councelors. We do it all too. It is a lot of work but I think that we get to know the girls
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                  We are in a branch and have 9 girls. We only have a Pres. and two councelors.
                  We do it all too. It is a lot of work but I think that we get to know the
                  girls better this way.

                  Shaunna


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                • mamacallgirl
                  I m a new YW President and am wondering how you sisters work having your advisors attend your presidency meetings. I want to include them but trying to get
                  Message 8 of 29 , Dec 14, 2003
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                    I'm a new YW President and am wondering how you sisters work having
                    your advisors attend your presidency meetings. I want to include
                    them but trying to get everyones schedule to work is next to
                    impossible. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

                    Debi in WA
                  • fifgalfan@aol.com
                    Debi, Our YWP has it s own meetings with just the four presidency members. We also have leadership meetings with the advisors and/or our Personal Progress
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                      Debi,
                      Our YWP has it's own meetings with just the four presidency members. We also
                      have leadership meetings with the advisors and/or our Personal Progress
                      Advisor depending on the agenda of that meeting. Our YW presidency tries very hard
                      to keep itself completely unified in all things, so the private meetings have
                      been a benefit to us. Then again, we all are in daily email contact with one
                      another (the presidency) and we have taken the bishopric's counsel of if one of
                      us sends an email about the program to someone else we send it to ALL the
                      presidency members, so then no one feels left out or out of the loop. Long story
                      short, I think there's a time for advisors to be in meetings with your
                      presidency, but budget concerns (like requesting next year's budget from the
                      bishopric and breaking up how that money will projectedly be spent over the next
                      year) amongst other things might not be appropriate to discuss with advisors.
                      Sorry if that didn't make sense. My two year old interrupted me with a matter of
                      war and peace to discuss with me in regards to her baby brother! :)

                      amber in NC

                      > I'm a new YW President and am wondering how you sisters work having
                      > your advisors attend your presidency meetings. I want to include
                      > them but trying to get everyones schedule to work is next to
                      > impossible. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
                      >
                      > Debi in WA



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                    • rrandall56@cs.com
                      Our advisors do attend so that they are in the loop so to speak. Our president plans the meeting a month in advance and whoever is there is there. Kathy
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                        Our advisors do attend so that they are "in the loop" so to speak. Our
                        president plans the meeting a month in advance and whoever is there is there.
                        Kathy


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                      • davencher2000
                        We have a presidency meeting 2-3 times a month with just the presidency, then we have a board meeting with the advisors every other month. We give them the
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                          We have a presidency meeting 2-3 times a month with just the
                          presidency, then we have a "board meeting" with the advisors every
                          other month. We give them the info we talk about in our Pres.
                          meeting if it pertains to them. We schedule the meetings and if
                          they can come that's great, but if not we have the meeting anyway
                          and give them a copy of the minutes.

                          --- In lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com, "mamacallgirl" <call@b...>
                          wrote:
                          > I'm a new YW President and am wondering how you sisters work
                          having
                          > your advisors attend your presidency meetings. I want to include
                          > them but trying to get everyones schedule to work is next to
                          > impossible. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
                          >
                          > Debi in WA
                        • Kim Jenkins
                          I am wondering why you feel like you need to include the advisors in your presidency meeting. In the handbook it says that the YW presidency and secretary
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                            I am wondering why you feel like you need to include the advisors in your presidency meeting. In the handbook it says that the YW presidency and secretary meet regularly, and that they may invite the advisors and specialists as needed. To me that means only as it is needed and not all the time.

                            The advisors roles are different than that of the presidency, and in my opinion they do not need to meet with the presidency too often. It is just my personal feeling that if you try and meet with everyone that it becomes too difficult - too many different schedules to try and accommodate and too many hens in the hen house. In one presidency I was in we met as a complete board once a quarter; in another one we met every two months; in still another one we met as we felt the need arise.

                            I feel it is my responsibility as a member of the presidency to keep the advisor working under me informed of what is going on through regular communication and so forth. This is accomplished with e-mails updating her on any nonconfidential material covered very quickly after I attend a meeting, through phone calls and through our own class presidency meetings with the girls. I feel like I have been in some great teams that have worked well.

                            There are meetings that the YW President attends without her counselors or other members of her board, and I don't think any of us think we should be included in those if we are not the president. The bishopric meets together without other priesthood and axillary leaders as well. YW Presidency meeting is called that for a reason, because it is for the presidency, the president and her counselors, and the secretary.

                            My advice would be to stick to the handbook and meet regularly as a presidency and secretary. When you feel the need to meet with your entire board, either at regular intervals or as you decide you feel the need, set a time for the meeting and be grateful for all who can attend. I do not believe you will ever be able to accommodate everyone on the board. I have a hard time seeing the General YW Presidency calling everyone on the YW board to see what time would work best for them to meet. I believe they set a time for a meeting and meet with all those who can attend.

                            Kim



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                          • Jeanni Gould
                            I have a comment on the YW leadership topic: I have been in every single YW calling, starting with Camp director when I was 18, and have experienced all
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                              I have a comment on the YW leadership topic:
                              I have been in every single YW calling, starting with Camp director
                              when I was 18, and have experienced all possible permutations of
                              meetings, including being president with no advisors at all, where
                              one of my counselors had to serve as camp director.

                              My very favorite was the regularly scheduled board meeting, on the
                              2nd Tues eve of every month. All members of the YW board were
                              present if possible, including the camp director (for the months
                              preparing for camp), PP specialist, music specialist, and sports
                              specialist. This was wonderful in allowing us to work as a team, be
                              unified before the girls, spark our creativity, and to coordinate
                              ALL our efforts (which can pull in different directions).

                              The Presidency met together more frequently to deal with personal
                              issues, budget, overall goals, evaluation, etc. We could also grab a
                              quick meeting before or after church, activities, etc. as needed.

                              I do not feel that the advisor is in any way "under me". She is my
                              partner - desperately needed for her ideas and love.

                              My least favorite schedule was when I was a MiaMaid advisor and the
                              presidency met together regularly, but we only met quarterly or less
                              as a board. In this presidency, the advisors had primary
                              responsibility for the activities, and the pres and counselors
                              taught the classes. This means I had 12 or more activities with no
                              discussion or feedback. I often learned things after the fact, such
                              as when my girls were divided into 2 classes, or when the activity
                              schedule had been changed. Counselors were unsure of how much
                              information to share or not share with the advisors. There was a
                              feeling of being out of the loop and that our advisor input was not
                              needed. There is a risk here of feeling "assigned" rather
                              than "involved".

                              As YW president, I cannot overstate how valuable are the input and
                              resources each leader brings to our program.

                              I envision YW leadership not as a top down organization, but as a
                              circle of love around our young women.
                              Jeanni


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                              > I am wondering why you feel like you need to include the advisors
                              in your presidency meeting. In the handbook it says that the YW
                              presidency and secretary meet regularly, and that they may invite
                              the advisors and specialists as needed. To me that means only as it
                              is needed and not all the time.
                              >
                              > The advisors roles are different than that of the presidency, and
                              in my opinion they do not need to meet with the presidency too
                              often. It is just my personal feeling that if you try and meet with
                              everyone that it becomes too difficult - too many different
                              schedules to try and accommodate and too many hens in the hen
                              house. In one presidency I was in we met as a complete board once a
                              quarter; in another one we met every two months; in still another
                              one we met as we felt the need arise.
                              >
                              > I feel it is my responsibility as a member of the presidency to
                              keep the advisor working under me informed of what is going on
                              through regular communication and so forth. This is accomplished
                              with e-mails updating her on any nonconfidential material covered
                              very quickly after I attend a meeting, through phone calls and
                              through our own class presidency meetings with the girls. I feel
                              like I have been in some great teams that have worked well.
                              >
                              > There are meetings that the YW President attends without her
                              counselors or other members of her board, and I don't think any of
                              us think we should be included in those if we are not the
                              president. The bishopric meets together without other priesthood
                              and axillary leaders as well. YW Presidency meeting is called that
                              for a reason, because it is for the presidency, the president and
                              her counselors, and the secretary.
                              >
                              > My advice would be to stick to the handbook and meet regularly as
                              a presidency and secretary. When you feel the need to meet with
                              your entire board, either at regular intervals or as you decide you
                              feel the need, set a time for the meeting and be grateful for all
                              who can attend. I do not believe you will ever be able to
                              accommodate everyone on the board. I have a hard time seeing the
                              General YW Presidency calling everyone on the YW board to see what
                              time would work best for them to meet. I believe they set a time
                              for a meeting and meet with all those who can attend.
                              >
                              > Kim
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                            • Kirstin
                              I ve served as both part of the YW presidency and as an advisor. In my ward, we meet every Fast Sunday for a 1.5 hour meeting. The entire YW board YW
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                                I've served as both part of the YW presidency and as an advisor.

                                In my ward, we meet every Fast Sunday for a 1.5 hour meeting.

                                The entire YW board YW presidency, advisors, specialists, PP leader,
                                camp director) and the member of the Bishopbric assigned to preside
                                over the YW organization meet for the first 45 minutes of the meeting.


                                Then the YW class presidencies arrive and we have a combined 20-25
                                minute meeting which includes a leadership segment taught by a member
                                of the YW presidency.

                                The final 20-25 minutes of the meeting is spent in individual class
                                presidency meetings.

                                I really like this meeting schedule. It's nice to know that we'll have
                                a meeting every month. It keeps everyone in the loop. It is also nice
                                to essentially get 2 meetings done at the same time - - a board meeting
                                and a class presidency meeting. The girls also enjoy interacting with
                                all of the YW leaders.

                                Kirstin in AZ



                                --- Jeanni Gould <chouettes@...> wrote:
                                > I have a comment on the YW leadership topic:
                                > I have been in every single YW calling, starting with Camp director
                                > when I was 18, and have experienced all possible permutations of
                                > meetings, including being president with no advisors at all, where
                                > one of my counselors had to serve as camp director.
                                >
                                > My very favorite was the regularly scheduled board meeting, on the
                                > 2nd Tues eve of every month. All members of the YW board were
                                > present if possible, including the camp director (for the months
                                > preparing for camp), PP specialist, music specialist, and sports
                                > specialist. This was wonderful in allowing us to work as a team, be
                                > unified before the girls, spark our creativity, and to coordinate
                                > ALL our efforts (which can pull in different directions).
                                >
                                > The Presidency met together more frequently to deal with personal
                                > issues, budget, overall goals, evaluation, etc. We could also grab a
                                > quick meeting before or after church, activities, etc. as needed.
                                >
                                > I do not feel that the advisor is in any way "under me". She is my
                                > partner - desperately needed for her ideas and love.
                                >
                                > My least favorite schedule was when I was a MiaMaid advisor and the
                                > presidency met together regularly, but we only met quarterly or less
                                > as a board. In this presidency, the advisors had primary
                                > responsibility for the activities, and the pres and counselors
                                > taught the classes. This means I had 12 or more activities with no
                                > discussion or feedback. I often learned things after the fact, such
                                > as when my girls were divided into 2 classes, or when the activity
                                > schedule had been changed. Counselors were unsure of how much
                                > information to share or not share with the advisors. There was a
                                > feeling of being out of the loop and that our advisor input was not
                                > needed. There is a risk here of feeling "assigned" rather
                                > than "involved".
                                >
                                > As YW president, I cannot overstate how valuable are the input and
                                > resources each leader brings to our program.
                                >
                                > I envision YW leadership not as a top down organization, but as a
                                > circle of love around our young women.
                                > Jeanni
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com, Kim Jenkins <m3kp@y...> wrote:
                                > > I am wondering why you feel like you need to include the advisors
                                > in your presidency meeting. In the handbook it says that the YW
                                > presidency and secretary meet regularly, and that they may invite
                                > the advisors and specialists as needed. To me that means only as it
                                > is needed and not all the time.
                                > >
                                > > The advisors roles are different than that of the presidency, and
                                > in my opinion they do not need to meet with the presidency too
                                > often. It is just my personal feeling that if you try and meet with
                                > everyone that it becomes too difficult - too many different
                                > schedules to try and accommodate and too many hens in the hen
                                > house. In one presidency I was in we met as a complete board once a
                                > quarter; in another one we met every two months; in still another
                                > one we met as we felt the need arise.
                                > >
                                > > I feel it is my responsibility as a member of the presidency to
                                > keep the advisor working under me informed of what is going on
                                > through regular communication and so forth. This is accomplished
                                > with e-mails updating her on any nonconfidential material covered
                                > very quickly after I attend a meeting, through phone calls and
                                > through our own class presidency meetings with the girls. I feel
                                > like I have been in some great teams that have worked well.
                                > >
                                > > There are meetings that the YW President attends without her
                                > counselors or other members of her board, and I don't think any of
                                > us think we should be included in those if we are not the
                                > president. The bishopric meets together without other priesthood
                                > and axillary leaders as well. YW Presidency meeting is called that
                                > for a reason, because it is for the presidency, the president and
                                > her counselors, and the secretary.
                                > >
                                > > My advice would be to stick to the handbook and meet regularly as
                                > a presidency and secretary. When you feel the need to meet with
                                > your entire board, either at regular intervals or as you decide you
                                > feel the need, set a time for the meeting and be grateful for all
                                > who can attend. I do not believe you will ever be able to
                                > accommodate everyone on the board. I have a hard time seeing the
                                > General YW Presidency calling everyone on the YW board to see what
                                > time would work best for them to meet. I believe they set a time
                                > for a meeting and meet with all those who can attend.
                                > >
                                > > Kim
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                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: Kirstin [mailto:KSTURG3@...]
                                  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:13 PM
                                  To: lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [lds-youngwomen] Re: Advisors and Presidency meeting

                                  I've served as both part of the YW presidency and as an advisor.

                                  In my ward, we meet every Fast Sunday for a 1.5 hour meeting.

                                  The entire YW board YW presidency, advisors, specialists, PP leader,
                                  camp director) and the member of the Bishopbric assigned to preside
                                  over the YW organization meet for the first 45 minutes of the meeting.


                                  Then the YW class presidencies arrive and we have a combined 20-25
                                  minute meeting which includes a leadership segment taught by a member
                                  of the YW presidency.

                                  The final 20-25 minutes of the meeting is spent in individual class
                                  presidency meetings.

                                  I really like this meeting schedule. It's nice to know that we'll have
                                  a meeting every month. It keeps everyone in the loop. It is also nice
                                  to essentially get 2 meetings done at the same time - - a board meeting
                                  and a class presidency meeting. The girls also enjoy interacting with
                                  all of the YW leaders.

                                  Kirstin in AZ



                                  --- Jeanni Gould <chouettes@...> wrote:
                                  > I have a comment on the YW leadership topic:
                                  > I have been in every single YW calling, starting with Camp director
                                  > when I was 18, and have experienced all possible permutations of
                                  > meetings, including being president with no advisors at all, where
                                  > one of my counselors had to serve as camp director.
                                  >
                                  > My very favorite was the regularly scheduled board meeting, on the
                                  > 2nd Tues eve of every month. All members of the YW board were
                                  > present if possible, including the camp director (for the months
                                  > preparing for camp), PP specialist, music specialist, and sports
                                  > specialist. This was wonderful in allowing us to work as a team, be
                                  > unified before the girls, spark our creativity, and to coordinate
                                  > ALL our efforts (which can pull in different directions).
                                  >
                                  > The Presidency met together more frequently to deal with personal
                                  > issues, budget, overall goals, evaluation, etc. We could also grab a
                                  > quick meeting before or after church, activities, etc. as needed.
                                  >
                                  > I do not feel that the advisor is in any way "under me". She is my
                                  > partner - desperately needed for her ideas and love.
                                  >
                                  > My least favorite schedule was when I was a MiaMaid advisor and the
                                  > presidency met together regularly, but we only met quarterly or less
                                  > as a board. In this presidency, the advisors had primary
                                  > responsibility for the activities, and the pres and counselors
                                  > taught the classes. This means I had 12 or more activities with no
                                  > discussion or feedback. I often learned things after the fact, such
                                  > as when my girls were divided into 2 classes, or when the activity
                                  > schedule had been changed. Counselors were unsure of how much
                                  > information to share or not share with the advisors. There was a
                                  > feeling of being out of the loop and that our advisor input was not
                                  > needed. There is a risk here of feeling "assigned" rather
                                  > than "involved".
                                  >
                                  > As YW president, I cannot overstate how valuable are the input and
                                  > resources each leader brings to our program.
                                  >
                                  > I envision YW leadership not as a top down organization, but as a
                                  > circle of love around our young women.
                                  > Jeanni
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com, Kim Jenkins <m3kp@y...> wrote:
                                  > > I am wondering why you feel like you need to include the advisors
                                  > in your presidency meeting. In the handbook it says that the YW
                                  > presidency and secretary meet regularly, and that they may invite
                                  > the advisors and specialists as needed. To me that means only as it
                                  > is needed and not all the time.
                                  > >
                                  > > The advisors roles are different than that of the presidency, and
                                  > in my opinion they do not need to meet with the presidency too
                                  > often. It is just my personal feeling that if you try and meet with
                                  > everyone that it becomes too difficult - too many different
                                  > schedules to try and accommodate and too many hens in the hen
                                  > house. In one presidency I was in we met as a complete board once a
                                  > quarter; in another one we met every two months; in still another
                                  > one we met as we felt the need arise.
                                  > >
                                  > > I feel it is my responsibility as a member of the presidency to
                                  > keep the advisor working under me informed of what is going on
                                  > through regular communication and so forth. This is accomplished
                                  > with e-mails updating her on any nonconfidential material covered
                                  > very quickly after I attend a meeting, through phone calls and
                                  > through our own class presidency meetings with the girls. I feel
                                  > like I have been in some great teams that have worked well.
                                  > >
                                  > > There are meetings that the YW President attends without her
                                  > counselors or other members of her board, and I don't think any of
                                  > us think we should be included in those if we are not the
                                  > president. The bishopric meets together without other priesthood
                                  > and axillary leaders as well. YW Presidency meeting is called that
                                  > for a reason, because it is for the presidency, the president and
                                  > her counselors, and the secretary.
                                  > >
                                  > > My advice would be to stick to the handbook and meet regularly as
                                  > a presidency and secretary. When you feel the need to meet with
                                  > your entire board, either at regular intervals or as you decide you
                                  > feel the need, set a time for the meeting and be grateful for all
                                  > who can attend. I do not believe you will ever be able to
                                  > accommodate everyone on the board. I have a hard time seeing the
                                  > General YW Presidency calling everyone on the YW board to see what
                                  > time would work best for them to meet. I believe they set a time
                                  > for a meeting and meet with all those who can attend.
                                  > >
                                  > > Kim
                                  > >
                                  > >
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                                • Kelly and Mimi Hancock
                                  I have been in all YW women callings also and I totally agree with you on this! I think we all bring something to the table that no one else could! And we
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                                    I have been in all YW women callings also and I totally agree with you
                                    on this! I think we all bring something to the table that no one else
                                    could! And we should work together for the best of the Young Women!
                                    Mimi In Utah

                                    On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Jeanni Gould wrote:

                                    > I have a comment on the YW leadership topic:
                                    > I have been in every single YW calling, starting with Camp director
                                    > when I was 18, and have experienced all possible permutations of
                                    > meetings, including being president with no advisors at all, where
                                    > one of my counselors had to serve as camp director.
                                    >
                                    > My very favorite was the regularly scheduled board meeting, on the
                                    > 2nd Tues eve of every month. All members of the YW board were
                                    > present if possible, including the camp director (for the months
                                    > preparing for camp), PP specialist, music specialist, and sports
                                    > specialist. This was wonderful in allowing us to work as a team, be
                                    > unified before the girls, spark our creativity, and to coordinate
                                    > ALL our efforts (which can pull in different directions).
                                    >
                                    > The Presidency met together more frequently to deal with personal
                                    > issues, budget, overall goals, evaluation, etc. We could also grab a
                                    > quick meeting before or after church, activities, etc. as needed.
                                    >
                                    > I do not feel that the advisor is in any way "under me". She is my
                                    > partner - desperately needed for her ideas and love.
                                    >
                                    > My least favorite schedule was when I was a MiaMaid advisor and the
                                    > presidency met together regularly, but we only met quarterly or less
                                    > as a board. In this presidency, the advisors had primary
                                    > responsibility for the activities, and the pres and counselors
                                    > taught the classes. This means I had 12 or more activities with no
                                    > discussion or feedback. I often learned things after the fact, such
                                    > as when my girls were divided into 2 classes, or when the activity
                                    > schedule had been changed. Counselors were unsure of how much
                                    > information to share or not share with the advisors. There was a
                                    > feeling of being out of the loop and that our advisor input was not
                                    > needed. There is a risk here of feeling "assigned" rather
                                    > than "involved".
                                    >
                                    > As YW president, I cannot overstate how valuable are the input and
                                    > resources each leader brings to our program.
                                    >
                                    > I envision YW leadership not as a top down organization, but as a
                                    > circle of love around our young women.
                                    > Jeanni
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In lds-youngwomen@yahoogroups.com, Kim Jenkins <m3kp@y...> wrote:
                                    >> I am wondering why you feel like you need to include the advisors
                                    > in your presidency meeting. In the handbook it says that the YW
                                    > presidency and secretary meet regularly, and that they may invite
                                    > the advisors and specialists as needed. To me that means only as it
                                    > is needed and not all the time.
                                    >>
                                    >> The advisors roles are different than that of the presidency, and
                                    > in my opinion they do not need to meet with the presidency too
                                    > often. It is just my personal feeling that if you try and meet with
                                    > everyone that it becomes too difficult - too many different
                                    > schedules to try and accommodate and too many hens in the hen
                                    > house. In one presidency I was in we met as a complete board once a
                                    > quarter; in another one we met every two months; in still another
                                    > one we met as we felt the need arise.
                                    >>
                                    >> I feel it is my responsibility as a member of the presidency to
                                    > keep the advisor working under me informed of what is going on
                                    > through regular communication and so forth. This is accomplished
                                    > with e-mails updating her on any nonconfidential material covered
                                    > very quickly after I attend a meeting, through phone calls and
                                    > through our own class presidency meetings with the girls. I feel
                                    > like I have been in some great teams that have worked well.
                                    >>
                                    >> There are meetings that the YW President attends without her
                                    > counselors or other members of her board, and I don't think any of
                                    > us think we should be included in those if we are not the
                                    > president. The bishopric meets together without other priesthood
                                    > and axillary leaders as well. YW Presidency meeting is called that
                                    > for a reason, because it is for the presidency, the president and
                                    > her counselors, and the secretary.
                                    >>
                                    >> My advice would be to stick to the handbook and meet regularly as
                                    > a presidency and secretary. When you feel the need to meet with
                                    > your entire board, either at regular intervals or as you decide you
                                    > feel the need, set a time for the meeting and be grateful for all
                                    > who can attend. I do not believe you will ever be able to
                                    > accommodate everyone on the board. I have a hard time seeing the
                                    > General YW Presidency calling everyone on the YW board to see what
                                    > time would work best for them to meet. I believe they set a time
                                    > for a meeting and meet with all those who can attend.
                                    >>
                                    >> Kim
                                    >>
                                    >>
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                                  • Beth Stone
                                    Jeanni, Amen! You said exactly what I was thinking. I have been yw president and a counselor. I am now pp leader. I think we are all working together for a
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                                      Jeanni,
                                      Amen! You said exactly what I was thinking. I have been yw president and a counselor. I am now pp leader. I think we are all working together for a common goal, we all love the girls and want the best for them. We all need to work together to accomplish this. I think every president needs to do what is best for her, but I have always felt like everyone needs to be included in all of the planning, and not just as an afterthought. I have had it both ways, and I definitely do not like feeling "out of the loop". Besides, the more of us there are the easier the job is.
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                                      Ditto! A YW Pres. who has been adviser and secretary and camp director. ... From: Beth Stone To: Sent:
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                                        Ditto!
                                        A YW Pres. who has been adviser and secretary and camp director.
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                                        Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:07 PM
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                                        > Jeanni,
                                        > Amen! You said exactly what I was thinking. I have been yw president and
                                        a counselor. I am now pp leader. I think we are all working together for a
                                        common goal, we all love the girls and want the best for them. We all need
                                        to work together to accomplish this. I think every president needs to do
                                        what is best for her, but I have always felt like everyone needs to be
                                        included in all of the planning, and not just as an afterthought. I have had
                                        it both ways, and I definitely do not like feeling "out of the loop".
                                        Besides, the more of us there are the easier the job is.
                                        > Beth
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                                      • terisa
                                        Hi everyone, I am new to this group and posted from the group page yesterday but perhaps it did not go through. I received an email asking me to introduce
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                                          Hi everyone,
                                          I am new to this group and posted from the group page yesterday but perhaps it did not go through.
                                          I received an email asking me to introduce myself so I guess I will do that now.
                                          My name is Terisa, I have just turned 47 years old and I am a convert to the church, joining when I was 16 years old. I was raised in New Mexico but have lived most of my married life in Texas and now in northern Wyoming. I have been married to the same lucky guy for almost 30 years now (hehe). He is currently serving as Bishop. We have five great kids, one of which is married, and three awesome grandchildren and one on the way. We only have the youngest at home and he is an 18 year old senior this year. I work as the office manager in a chiropractor's office. He also happens to be the Stake President so you can imagine what a wonderful place it is to work!! I have just been called into the Young Womens presidency as 1st counselor. This is probably the 10th or 12th time that I have been in Young Womens. I guess I have had just about every other church calling that women can have except for Librarian and Activities Committee.
                                          I have enjoyed the posts that I have received so far and look forward to getting and hopefully giving some good ideas in the future. Right now I am looking for ideas for activities that go along with the value Faith. Any and all help will be truly appreciated.
                                          Thanks so much for the opportunity to be part of the group. When my oldest son was on his mission in Guatemala I was part of the Missionary Moms group and it was so incredibly helpful...I am sure this one will be just the same!!
                                          Thank You Sisters,
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