CE *_wô_, *_wo_ > Q _ó-_ / _o-_[was re: ómentie]
- On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 09:46 AM, Edward J. Kloczko wrote:
> Carl F. Hostetter wrote:Edouard is correct that the root *WO (XI:367; no CE prefix form *_wo-_
>> Given that Q _o-_/_ó-_ and T _wo-_/_vo-_ are known to have arisen
>> from a variably-lengthened element even in Common Eldarin,
> That is not how I interpret the text in WJ. The root in CE is written
> _WO_ with a short _o_. The usual lengthening of _o_ is presented as a
> development in the CE _word_ wô only; _wo-_ is stated to be a prefix,
> there is no CE prefix _wô-_ apparently at that time, from my
is actually cited there) underlying the Quenya prefix _ó-_ / _o-_ is
not stated in _Quendi and Eldar_ to have been variably lengthened.
However, its CE reflexes, the independent and length- (and perhaps
stress-) contrastive words *_wô_ and *_wo_ [? stands for macron], are
cited as a pair elsewhere in _Q&E_ (XI:366). We are also told (367)
that *WO "does not remain in Q as an independent word", but is "a
frequent prefix in the form _ó-_ (usually reduced to _o-_ when
unstressed)". Taken together, this suggests that the Quenya prefix _ó-_
is _in origin_ a reflex of the CE independent word *_wô_, and that its
shortened counterpart _o-_ is _in origin_ a reflex of CE *_wo_ (though
with much subsequent leveling of forms in Quenya due to stress
As further support for this, note that the _Etymologies_ tells us that:
"In Q the form _wô_, and the unstressed _wo_ [there is a breve in the
text], combined to produce prefix [_o-_ / _ô-_] 'together'" (V:399 s.v.
It does appear, then, that a length- (and stress-?) contrastive pair of
CE words *_wô_, *_wo_ underlies the variably lengthened and stressed
Quenya prefix _ó-_ / _o-_.
=========================================================================================Carl F. Hostetter Aelfwine@... http://www.elvish.org
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