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  • Petri Tikka
    As stated by Didier Willis in a recent Elfling post, language and history are intertwined . This brings in the question of the history of the Quenya
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      As stated by Didier Willis in a recent Elfling post, "language and history
      are intertwined". This brings in the question of the history of the Quenya
      translation of "Pater Noster", "Átaremma". Jesus or Christianity is not
      mentioned anywhere in Tolkien's mythology of Middle-earth. How is it then
      possible that there is a translation of "Pater Noster" to Quenya? Of course,
      one could say that this translation has no historical siginficance in
      Tolkien's writings, it is not inside the invented history.

      But there are another explenations. As many times stated and seen in
      Tolkien's mythological writings, the history he creates is the very ancient
      history of the world. And as all throughout the "HoMe", he never abonded the
      concept of an Anglo-Saxon mariner who finds _Tol Eressea_ of the departed
      elves, and who translates various Elvish writings into Old English:
      Aelfwine. Maybe he is the one who introduced "Pater Noster" to translation
      in Quenya?

      Yet one possibility is that a traveler from later times brought the prayer
      to Tol Eressea. This is supported by the fact that the translation often
      times approaces later English translations of the prayer more than other
      versions.

      What is then the internal history of the translation? Unless (being very
      improbable) any more information comes out, this is a matter of pure
      speculation.

      Petri Tikka Helsinki, Finland
      kari.j.tikka@...
      http://www.geocities.com/petristikka/

      [It is not true, strictly speaking, that Jesus is not mentioned within
      the framework of Tolkien's mythology: the Trinity is clearly present in
      the _Qenya Lexicon_, and Christ is clearly foreshadowed in the _Athrabeth
      Finrod ah Andreth_. Moreover, the Holy Spirit, by the name of the Secret
      Flame / Fire, is prominently present throughout the mythology. Carl]
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