Re: Magol or Mago - Another Language?
- Patrick H. Wynne wrote:
> "Tolkien's Hungarian-style language is actually called _Mágol_. In theVery intriguing! I wonder whether there is some connection between
> earlier of the two texts on this language it is called _Mágo_ and more
> closely resembles Adunaic than Hungarian; this same text also says
> that 'Old Mágo' was the language of the children of Húrin. ... In the later
> text, the language is called _Mágol_ and seems clearly modeled after
> Hungarian in phonology and grammatical structure, while retaining a
> strong Elvish influence as well ...
_Mágo(l)_ and the names we get to know from Michael Ramer (a fictional
professor of Finno-Ugric phonology) in the 'Notion Club Papers'
For instance he mentions _Shomorú_ 'Saturn' (IX:221), _Dalud dimran_
or _Eshil dimzor_ (IX:218), a waterfall on the world _Ellor Eshúrizel_
(IX:200). Actually, it seemed to me that these names resemble the
Ramer also uses some Hungarian words or similar ones: _Gyönyörü_,
_Emberü_ (IX:178,214), _Gyürüchill_ 'Saturn' (IX:205,221) and so on.
Are we perhaps dealing with specimens of _Mágo(l)_ in one of these two
linguistic layers, just as we meet there Quenya and Adunaic?
[This is an intriguing possibility, to be sure, but there seems to be
no correspondence between words or elements in Mágo(l) and Ramer's
Hungarian-style dream-names in _The Notion Club Papers_.
BTW, as I noted in a letter to Christopher Tolkien (see XI:xi), the name
_Shomorú_ itself is probably < Hung. _szomorú_ 'sad'. -- PHW]