730Re: [Lambengolmor] Is _enge_ "irregular"?
- Sep 1, 2004--- "Patrick H. Wynne" <pwynne@...> wrote,
re statements by me and by S�bastien Bertho in Elfling
messages #30283 and #30284, respectively, that _enge_,
pa.t. of _ea_ 'exists', is "irregular":
> I disagree with Thomas's and S�bastien'sI stand corrected in my opinion, the past tense of
> characterization of _enge_ as an "irregular"
> past tense.
_ea-_ is regular to its kind. To support our
characterisation a little bit, although the pa.t. of
this verb is regular, it may be that the verb itself
is irregular in the sense that its paradigm is not
whole, for instance it might lack a perfect form (on a
sidenote: what would be the perfect of _tea-_?)
-- love is the shadow that ripens the wine --
[I am puzzled by your final statement -- on what
evidence do you assume that the paradigm of _ea_
'exists' might not be whole or lack a perfect form?
There are very few Quenya verbs indeed for which
all tenses -- aorist, present, past, perfect, future --
are attested, and yet it is generally supposed (correctly,
I think) by Tolkienian linguists that this is simply
due to our fragmentary evidence, not to rampant
irregularity in the Quenya verbal system.
As for the perfect tense of _tea_ 'indicates', is there
any reason to suppose it might not have been
*_etengie_, after pa.t. _tenge_? In "Quendi and
Eldar" Tolkien notes that _av�nie_, perfect tense
of _auta-_ 'go away, leave', had "intrusion of _n_
from the past [_v�ne_] (the forms of past and perfect
became progressively more closely associated in
Quenya)" (XI:366). -- Patrick H. Wynne]
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