571Re: Quenya rhotacism
- Jan 3, 2004Quoting Ales Bican <ales.bican@...>:
> Andreas Johannson remarked:Well, as there's to the very best of my knowledge no (other) Q word with a
>> In Etym, under TARAG, we se *_targâ_ as the ancestral form of Q >_tarya_.
> ... I cannot quite understand the change of _g_ to _y_. Perhaps the _y_ in
> _tarya_ is a misreading for _g_ and we will have the very first word with
> _rg_? And looking at development of _gh_ (written as gamma) in PE12:24
> where _rgh_ gave _rg_, it may even be that the _y_ is a misreading for a
gamma in it, it would rather surpise me. And _g_>_gh_>_y_ is hardly very odd.
Greek's done it before front vowels, f'rinstance, and Noldorin seems to much
the same in _Diriel_<_Dirghel_ (mentioned under DER in Etym), where the second
element is from GYEL. Unchanged _-rg-_ wouldn't agree with the statement in
Appendix E that Q only had _g_ in _-ng-_, but of course, the Professor may
have changed his mind between writing Etym and LotR.
There's also Q _felya_ from PHELEG- - no primitive form listed, but almost
certainly *_phelgâ_; cf AT _felga_ and ON _phelga_. This would be a parallel
(And yes, I'm aware of Q _ulundo_ < _ulgundô_, which raises the question why
we're not seeing **fela instead.)
> (A question may be asked if _kt_ had already become _xt_ when _3t_ becameIt cannot have, since _ma3-tâ-_>_mahtâ-_ and _maktâ-_ yields different forms
> _xt_. If so, I would be tempted to intepret [x] in _mahta_ as a realization of an
> archiphoneme /k-h/ but that is a different matter.)
in Noldorin; _matho_ (with the Noldorin infinitival -o) and _maetha_ (glossed
as infinitive, but apparently a "personless" present tense) respectively.
"Quendi and Eldar" has AT _hecta-_ from _hek-tâ-_, confirming that _kt_ > _ht_
is a specifically Quenya development.
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