161aorist stem (was _-Vndo)
- Jul 30, 2002Patrick Wynne wrote [in mess.157]:
> So David's statement that "the aorist can, after all, be used as aGranted.
> past tense" is to my knowledge untrue.
However, I see no compelling reason for the assumption that _-Vnd_ is
derived from the aorist stem (indeed from any temporal stem). The _i_
doesn't have to have anything to do with the aorist. I still maintain
the opinion that the notion of "past" is contained in the _n_.
A form in _-Vndo_ doesn't show us whether the root syllable once was
long since with the stress is on the second syllable, in CVCV:ndo, the
first syllable can only, as far as I know, be short. So I see nothing that would
exclude the interpretation as a past participle active.
And even *if* the lengthening of the root vowel as seen in _rákina_ is
indicative of the past, so should the _n_ be which, after all, is a
prominent marker of the past (I don't think I've got to give examples
for that). So whatever the _i_ between the root and the ending, it
apparently doesn't contradict a "past" interpretation.
[I wasn't denying a "past" interpretation of _rákina_! My whole
point in noting that the long vowel in passive past participles
such as _rákina_, _rúkina_ was also indicative of the Q. pa.t.
was to refute your assertion that the stem in these forms
could be aorist. -- Patrick Wynne]
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