Re: [SGVLUG] publicity broadcast (spam ?)
- I agree, anyone who sends out mail to Linux users in Los Angeles
might want to mention the lalugs.org web site. Presumably
all the LA LUGs link there (or will soon), though, so it's not
the most important thing in the world.
Also, by emailing to people who registered with http://counter.li.org,
aren't we preaching to the choir? What we need is a billboard
on Wilshire Boulevard :-) or more practically speaking,
to develop a relationship with the hosts of local computer-oriented radio
Charlie Blanchard wrote:
> The wide area "spamming" (-: might be more appropriately done periodically by--
> lalugs.org on behalf of all area lugs - and can direct to the lalug.org site
> for potential members to choose.
> Sounds like a valid function of lalugs.org? The site is informative and
> up-to-date with the area Lug contact info...
> Ok, ok, so maybe it was .04, so sue me :-}}
> On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, David Lawyer wrote:
> > David Lawyer wrote:
> > >> I'm planning on emailing all registered Linux users in Pasadena and
> > >> vicinity and have a mailing list of them. They registered
> > I should have said I have a list of their email addresses for "spamming"
> > (-: purposes.
> > >> with the Linux
> > >> Counter on the Web. Some refused to have their email address made
> > >> public so about half the registered user will not hear from
> > >> us. I think
> > >> this is one case where spamming is OK since we're not trying
> > I was partly joking when I said "spamming" and should have (-:
> > >> to sell them anything --just informing them about our meetings.
> > >>
> > I'
> > Tom Emerson wrote
> > --snip--
> > >Send this [notice of our meetings] to everyone "local" (*) you find on the
> > >webpage, then mark them
> > >down for no mail for (3? 6?) months; next month pick up anyone new from the
> > >page(s), etc. The second or third mailing should indicate that fact AND a
> > >positive response request to either indicate they've signed up with a list
> > >or "don't bug me again"; any third or fourth mailing should apologize for
> > >having intruded and indicate that this is the last message [by then, it
> > >should be 6 months to a year from the first mailing, and if they haven't
> > >responded, it's likely they "tried" linux and gave up on it...]
> > >
> > --snip--
> > >(*) by "local", I'd hit most, if not all, of southern California -- with
> > >freeways and such, "local" can be as far away as 50-100 miles. At our last
> > >meeting, we had "first timer's" from the San Fernando Valley area, and
> > >tomorrow Ocie and myself are planning on attending the Orange County LUG...
> > There are 39 people on my "list" which may include people who are already
> > on our mailing list. I tooks them from Altadena, Pasadena, S. Pasadena,
> > San Marino (only 1 person), and Arcadia. I plan to suggest that this
> > method of publicity be put into the Linux-User-Group-HOWTO. I bet few
> > LUGs know about it. One way to do this is for each LUG to email
> > to people who live fairly near that LUG and are not nearer to another LUG.
> > Once they take an interest in one LUG and check out it's website, they
> > should be able to find out about the other LUGs.
> > Another idea. It would be more efficient for one person to send out a
> > broadcast to all the "registered" people in the LA Metropolitan area
> > coverd by my list of Lugs. Send them the list of all the Lugs and let
> > them decide which one(s) to visit (if any). People are likely to first
> > try out the nearest LUG. I don't know if my LA-Freenet account can take a
> > couple hundred people in the To: header. Does anyone know?
> > There are some areas in the LA-Metropolitan area far from any LUG. It
> > seems that the distribution corresponds closely to the distribution of
> > members of the Unitarian religion and Sierra Club Leaders (I once looked
> > into this). They're concentrated in middle class areas. There's less in
> > high class areas (like San Marino and Beverly Hills) and still less in
> > lower class areas. But anyone on the "counter" list is involved in some way
> > with Linux and so they all should get an email. We don't discriminate by
> > where one lives. But people living in lower class areas will be further
> > away from meetings.
> > Anyway, I plan to email to my present list now and then consider a more
> > comprehensive mailing for later.
(The above is my opinion alone, and not that of my employer)
Regarding relationships with <media types>. One such that comes to mind
immediately is Steve Bass, founder and operator of PIBMUG* - Pasadena IBM Users
Group. In addition to running one of the country's more successful and
influential user groups, Steve is a columnist for PC World and other
publications, a radio talk show (KPCC) co-host, and I believe is or was recently
president of a national association of users groups.
I have been a member of PIBMUG for some years now, and know Steve to be a very
high integrity type who literally has gone the extra mile <for me and others>
on many occasions. Indeed, PIBMUG is the forum where I was first introduced to
Linux just this past February when he invited Jeff Lansman to present a talk
about and demonstration of Linux. It was at that meeting that I discovered the
SGVLUG since Ocie Mitchell was manning the computer while Jeff presented.
Good grief, I've gone long winded again! Anyway, I believe Steve would be
interested in the fact that there is a central point of communication for Linux
in Southern California.
BTW - Steve requested info for an upcoming article awhile back and as a result
I introduced him to Frank Keeney of SGVLUG. In addition to assisting Steve with
his research, Frank will be a presenter on the subject of computer
security at PIBMUG's October meeting. (Wed, Oct 6th)
* - PIBMUG: http://www.pibmug.org
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Dan Kegel wrote:
> I agree, anyone who sends out mail to Linux users in Los Angeles
> might want to mention the lalugs.org web site. Presumably
> all the LA LUGs link there (or will soon), though, so it's not
> the most important thing in the world.
> Also, by emailing to people who registered with http://counter.li.org,
> aren't we preaching to the choir? What we need is a billboard
> on Wilshire Boulevard :-) or more practically speaking,
> to develop a relationship with the hosts of local computer-oriented radio
> - Dan
> Charlie Blanchard wrote:
> > The wide area "spamming" (-: might be more appropriately done periodically by
> > lalugs.org on behalf of all area lugs - and can direct to the lalug.org site
> > for potential members to choose.
> > Sounds like a valid function of lalugs.org? The site is informative and
> > up-to-date with the area Lug contact info...
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