You rang? :)
And pretty weird you did. I had to go to MDC
to see the location of this mom because I got a call last week with exactly this
fact pattern except in last week's case the day care had told mom that health
dept. regs forbade BMilk in sippys (and the mom is in a different state).
Same argument though - disease transmission through casual contact with
BMilk. In last week's case the mom so feared she would be booted from the
day care that she was going to agree and say the stuff in the sippy was now
almond milk ;)
It is unlikely any health dept regs would forbid
BMilk in sippys for the logical reason that no disease can be transferred
through casual contact with BMilk. Someone posted the CDC link at
MDC. The CDC clearly states that BMilk does not require universal
precautions like other bodily fluids like blood. This fear of breastmilk
is all the more absurd given the free exchange of body fluids among toddlers
(spitting, biting, drooling, sneezing, nose picking, BREATHING) which actually
does lead to the spread of disease.
Even the risk that one child drinks another's sippy
is misguided in that, while viruses like HIV have been identified as present in
breastmilk, it has still not been proven that viruses can be transmitted through
drinking pumped milk. The incredibly small incidence of what is thought to
be breastmilk transmitted HIV has been via nursing mother to child during which
one can not know whether the virus is traveling in the milk or through blood
leaking from a nipple fissure. I know of no reported case of HIV
transmission from pumped milk. I think we could all come up with many
cases when our kids have caught disease from drinking juice out of each others'
The bottle vs. sippy distinction also mystifies me
(same distinction was made in my call last week - day care had no problem giving
the kid bottled breastmilk). I will admit I never actually used a
bottle (none of my kids would take pumped milk from a bottle) but don't they
leak pretty regularly?
The legal problem in this and other day care
discrimination cases is that, with the exception of Louisiana, no state law
forbids discrimination in day care on the basis of breastfeeding. So any
parent who makes a fuss about discriminatory practices risks getting booted out
of the day care.
If this mom wants to do anything, as she clearly
does, she has taken the correct first step in confronting management.
After that, she will have to go the activist route.
I'll keep an eye on the thread and see if she has
trouble finding the right medical article.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 5:01
Subject: [lactivism] This just popped up
on MDC Lactivist board- another daycare discr. Mamajake???
Am I being discriminated against? Need sci references.
so upset and furious right now. I'm at work and I don't have time
here posting but I need your help. It's become evident that my
owner is discriminating against my youngest because she's
breastfed. I was
told this morning by the Assist. Dir. that I can't
send in a sippy for dd#2
anymore because it has breastmilk in it. I
have to use a
After waiting several hours with major venting to dh and
co-workers, I called to get it straight from the director. When
spoke to the owner/director, she said this is a new policy on
part, not part of state guidelines. I told her I had been sending
with a sippy of EBM with her lunch because I was noticing she
coming home with two full bottles (4 oz each). She's there for
hours, I send her with 4 bottles of approximately 4 oz each. She
well in that case, she'll talk to her teachers to make sure
giving her the bottles. My baby is a very stubborn and
girl. I took the now empty sippys as her cue to me that she's
move on. To make her drink all her EBM from bottles is
counterintuitive (guidelines to wean from bottles by 12
I need references telling this woman that BM is NOT
there any studies out there?
I love my dh and my
pediatric practice. The practice is located in a
UN breastfeeding friendly
hospital. They're calling the LC and the
doctor now to give me support. My
dh called (former debate team
member) and asked the director why I was
crying. After hearing her
argument, even he suggested that she's being
breastfed children. He hit a nerve when he said the
d-word. But he did
garner a huge victory: Astrid will be able to continue
sippy in the highchair at lunch so long as no children are next
I really and truly love this place. Above all, we want to see
oldest in the pre-K class because of the stellar teacher there.
don't want this to become a hate match. But dh knows I'm ready to
the youngest out of there right now.
What I need your help on
is references to whether or not BM can
transfer any colds, viruses or
diseases to other children or
caregivers through direct or indirect contact
or accidental ingestion.