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  • scotpeden
    Doesn t the first sentence alone ring alarm bells? First of all, it use to be those fleeing who were shot, now it s those remaining. The Authorities use to
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      Doesn't the first sentence alone ring alarm bells?

      First of all, it use to be those fleeing who were shot, now it's those

      The Authorities use to always insist wait for them, you might be killed,
      now in all of these recent mass shootings, those that remained are killed.

      Something changed in the last 10 years or so, and mass murder profiles
      simply do not change like that all on their own.

      Note, information that is released immediately is scrubbed and rewritten
      or simply disappears and the authorities will not talk about it.

      Questioners who ask if psych meds are involved, at personally attacked,
      and many an early report show that these people all have been under the
      care of s Psychiatrist, who prescribed mind altering meds, and every one
      of these mass shooters has had access to guns, when we already have laws
      that should have made sure they did NOT have access to them. That is due
      to people being elected on those laws and then the funding for the laws
      being dropped. Insist on funding laws we have, fight all new laws. Laws do
      not protect us.

      And last but not least, the Human Gnome doesn't simply change when the
      millennium changes. But all Police/Military states rise when the
      population is sold a new brand of fear that is shrouded in mystery, it
      worked for Old Rome it worked for the Democratic Greece, and it brought
      all of them down.



      Trapped in a Mass Shooting? Act, Live

      By Erica Goode, The New York Times

      07 April 13

      he speed and deadliness of recent high-profile shootings have prompted
      police departments to recommend fleeing, hiding or fighting in the event
      of a mass attack, instead of remaining passive and waiting for help.

      The shift represents a "sea change," said Chuck Wexler, executive director
      of the Police Executive Research Forum, which recently held a meeting in
      Washington to discuss shootings like those in Newtown, Conn., and Aurora,

      The traditional advice to the public has been "don't get involved, call
      911," Mr. Wexler said, adding, "There's a recognition in these ‘active
      shooter' situations that there may be a need for citizens to act in a way
      that perhaps they haven't been trained for or equipped to deal with."

      Mr. Wexler and others noted that the change echoes a transformation in
      police procedures that began after the shooting at Columbine High School
      in 1999, when some departments began telling officers who arrived first on
      a scene to act immediately rather than waiting for backup. Since then, the
      approach has become widespread, as a succession of high-profile shootings
      across the country has made it clear that no city or town is immune and
      that police agencies must be prepared to take an active approach.

      "We used to sit outside and set up a perimeter and wait for the SWAT team
      to get there," said Michael Dirden, an executive assistant chief of the
      Houston Police Department. "Now it's a recognition that time is of the
      essence and those initial responders have to go in," he said, adding that
      since the Virginia Tech University shooting in 2007, the department has
      been training first responders to move in on their own when they encounter
      active gunfire.

      Research on mass shootings over the last decade has bolstered the idea
      that people at the scene of an attack have a better chance of survival if
      they take an active stance rather than waiting to be rescued by the
      police, who in many cases cannot get there fast enough to prevent the loss
      of life.

      In an analysis of 84 such shooting cases in the United States from 2000 to
      2010, for example, researchers at Texas State University found that the
      average time it took for the police to respond was three minutes.

      "But you see that about half the attacks are over before the police get
      there, even when they arrive quickly," said J. Pete Blair, director for
      research of the university's Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response
      Training Center and an author of the research, which is set to be
      published in a book this year.

      In the absence of a police presence, how victims responded often made the
      difference between life and death, Dr. Blair said.

      In 16 of the attacks studied by the researchers, civilians were able to
      stop the perpetrator, subduing him in 13 cases and shooting him in 3
      cases. In other attacks, civilians have obstructed or delayed the gunman
      until the police arrived.

      As part of the research, Dr. Blair and his colleagues looked at survival
      rates and the actions taken by people in classrooms under attack during
      the Virginia Tech massacre, in which Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 students and
      teachers before killing himself.

      In two classrooms, the students and instructors tried to hide or play dead
      after Mr. Cho entered. Nearly all were shot, and most died. In a third
      classroom, Prof. Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor, told his students
      to jump out the second-story window while he tried to hold the classroom
      door shut, delaying Mr. Cho from coming in. Professor Librescu was killed,
      but many of the students survived, and only three were injured by gunfire.
      In another classroom, where the students and teacher blocked the door with
      a heavy desk and held it in place, Mr. Cho could not get in, and everyone

      "The take-home message is that you're not helpless and the actions you
      take matter," Dr. Blair said. "You can help yourself and certainly buy
      time for the police to get there."

      Kristina Anderson, 26, who was shot three times during the Virginia Tech
      attack, said that every situation is different but that she thinks it can
      help for people to develop a plan for how they might act if a mass
      shooting occurred.

      "Everywhere I go now, I think about exits and doorways and potential
      places to hide and things to barricade and fight back with," Ms. Anderson
      said. "Some person has to take action and lead."

      Two instructional videos, one produced by Houston's Office of Public
      Safety and Homeland Security and the other by the University of
      Wisconsin's police department, recommend that civilians fight an attacker
      if options like escaping or hiding are not available.

      Dennis Storemski, a former executive assistant chief in Houston's police
      department and director of the public safety office that produced the
      video, called "Run. Hide. Fight.," said the decision to produce it emerged
      from a realization that while first responders were "fairly well prepared"
      to deal with mass shootings, the public was not. The video has received
      over two million hits on YouTube, and the office gets requests every day
      from other police departments and government agencies that would like to
      use it, Mr. Storemski said.

      He said initially, the suggestion that victims should fight back as a last
      resort stirred some controversy.

      "We had a few people that thought that was not a wise idea," Mr. Storemski
      said, but that in some cases fighting back might be the only option.

      Susan Riseling, chief of police at the University of Wisconsin in Madison,
      said the Virginia Tech episode changed her thinking about how to advise
      students because it was clear that Mr. Cho had "one goal, and that seemed
      to be to kill as many people as possible before ending his life."

      The department's video, screened during training sessions around the state
      but not available online, tells students to escape or conceal themselves
      if possible, but if those options are not available, to fight. In the
      video, students are shown throwing a garbage can at an attacker and
      charging at him as a group.

      "If you're face to face and you know that this person is all about death,
      you've got to take some action to fight," Chief Riseling said.

      What she worries about most, she said, is that spree shootings are
      becoming so common that she suspects people have begun to accept them as a
      normal part of life.

      "That's the sad part of it," Chief Riseling said. "This should never be
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