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  • scotpeden@cruzio.com
    Ah yes, these were the Christians I grew up with, (in the article) if you weren t of their particular extremists sect, the Bible did not apply to you, if you
    Message 1 of 1 , Nov 24 8:38 PM
      Ah yes, these were the Christians I grew up with, (in the article) if you
      weren't of their particular extremists sect, the Bible did not apply to
      you, if you were not of the pure racial line they were of (a Scots race
      of some extreme Episcopalian sect) you were what the bible told them is, a
      non man who was only eating up resources that God meant for them and the 7
      Capital Sins did not apply to your extermination.

      I'm of Scots extraction, but we were not of an Episcopalian sect, much
      less one that was acceptable to them. As dangerous as life was for me,
      from the hands of those I'm closely genetically related to, the natives
      that dared put a kin in their school rarely lasted 48 hours, I saw 2
      picked up by thier parents hours after they were left beating, bloody and
      unconscious on the school grounds by fellow students, the principal of our
      Public School only called their parents as he didn't want to have to clean
      up the mess.

      First the cops come beat them up cause their kids aren't in school, then
      their neighbors burn down their schools, then they beat their kids when
      forced to send them to our all white Public schools.

      That was in Central western Washington State in the late 1950's and early

      They walk among us, and though they are a minority, they retain high power
      becasue good men stand by and do nothing. It's what they do, not the nice
      labels they've usurped to hide their evil deeds behind.

      Mild by comparison to the history that follows.


      ----- Original Message -----

      *Extermination of American Indians *


      In the words of John Winthrop, the first governor of Massachusetts
      Bay Colony: "… justifieinge the undertakeres of the intended
      Plantation in New England... to carry the Gospell into those parts
      of the world... and to raise a Bulworke against the kingdome of the
      Ante-Christ." (sic) [SH235]

      On average, two thirds of the native population was killed by
      colonist-imported smallpox before the violence began. This was a
      great sign of "… the marvelous goodness and providence of God.”
      The http://ethnikoi.org/garrot2.jpgGovernor of the Massachusetts Bay
      Colony wrote in 1634, “As for the natives, they are near all dead of
      the smallpox, so as the Lord hath cleared our title to what we
      possess." [SH109, 238]

      On Hispaniola alone, on Columbus’s visits, the native population
      (Arawak), a rather harmless and happy people living on an island of
      abundant natural resources, soon mourned 50,000 dead. [SH204] The
      surviving Indians fell victim to rape, murder, enslavement and
      Spanish raids.

      As one of the culprits wrote: "So many Indians died that they could
      not be counted, all through the land the Indians lay dead
      everywhere. The stench was very great and pestiferous." [SH69]

      The Indian Chief Hatuey fled with his people, but was captured and
      burned alive. As "… they were tying him to the stake a Franciscan
      friar urged him to take Jesus to his heart so that his soul might go
      to heaven, rather than descend into hell.” Hatuey replied, “If
      heaven is where the Christians go, I would rather go to hell." [SH70]

      An eyewitness described what happened to his people: "The Spaniards
      found pleasure in inventing all kinds of odd cruelties... They built
      a long gibbet, long enough for the toes to touch the ground to
      prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in
      honour of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles... then, straw
      was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive." [SH72]

      Or, on another occasion: "The Spaniards cut off the arm of one, the
      leg or hip of another, and from some their heads at one stroke, like
      butchers cutting up beef and mutton for market. Six hundred,
      including the cacique, were thus slain like brute beasts... Vasco
      [de Balboa] ordered forty of them to be torn to pieces by dogs." [SH83]

      “The island's population of about eight million people, at the time
      of Columbus's arrival in 1492, already had declined by a third to a
      half before the year 1496 was out." Eventually, all the island's
      natives were exterminated, so the Spaniards were "forced" to import
      slaves from other Caribbean islands, who soon suffered the same
      fate. Thus "The Caribbean's millions of native people were thereby
      effectively liquidated in barely a quarter of a century". [SH72-73]
      "In less than the normal lifetime of a single human being, an entire
      culture of millions of people, thousands of years resident in their
      homeland, had been exterminated." [SH75]

      "And then the Spanish turned their attention to the mainland of
      Mexico and Central America. The slaughter had barely begun. The
      exquisite city of Tenochtitlan [Mexico City] was next." [SH75]

      Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other Spanish conquistadors
      likewise sacked southern and meso-american civilisations in the name
      of Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida).

      "When the 16th century ended, some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to
      the Americas. By that time probably more than 60,000,000 natives
      were dead." [SH95]

      Of course the founders of North America were no different. Although
      none of the settlers would have survived winter without native help,
      they soon set out to expel and exterminate the Indians. Warfare
      among North American Indians was rather 'harmless', by European
      standards, and was meant to avenge insults rather than to conquer
      land. In the words of some of the Pilgrim Fathers: "Their Warres
      are farre less bloudy..." so that there usually was "… no great
      slawter of nether side". Indeed, "They might fight seven yeares and
      not kill seven men." What is more, the Indians usually spared women
      and children. [SH111]

      In the spring of 1612, some English colonists found life among the
      friendly and generous natives attractive enough to leave Jamestown,
      "… being idell did runne away unto the Indyans," to live among them,
      which probably solved a sex problem.

      Governor Thomas Dale had these settlers hunted down and executed:
      "Some he apointed to be hanged some burned some to be broken upon
      wheles, others to be staked and some shott to deathe." (sic)
      [SH105] Of course these elegant measures were restricted for
      fellow Englishmen: "This was the treatment for those who wished to
      act like Indians. For those who had no choice in the matter,
      because they were the native people of Virginia" methods were
      different: "… when an Indian was accused by an Englishman of
      stealing a cup and failing to return it, the English response was to
      attack the natives in force, burning the entire community down."

      On the territory that is now Massachusetts the founding fathers of
      the colonies were committing genocide, in what has become known as
      the "Peqout War". The killers were New England Puritans, refugees
      from persecution in England.

      When however a dead colonist was found, apparently killed by
      Narragansett Indians, the Puritan colonists wanted revenge. Despite
      the Indian chief's pledge, they attacked. Somehow they seem to have
      lost the idea of who they were after, because when Pequot Indians,
      long-time foes of the Narragansetts greeted them, the troops made
      war on them and burned their villages.

      The Puritan commander-in-charge John Mason after one massacre wrote:
      "And indeed such a dreadful Terror did the Almighty let fall upon
      their Spirits, that they would fly from us and run into the very
      Flames, where many of them perished... God was above them, who
      laughed his Enemies and the Enemies of his People to Scorn, making
      them as a fiery Oven... Thus did the Lord judge among the Heathen,
      filling the Place with dead Bodies." [SH113-114]

      So "the Lord was pleased to smite our Enemies in the hinder Parts,
      and to give us their land for an inheritance". [SH111]

      Because of his readers' assumed knowledge of Deuteronomy, there was
      no need for Mason to quote the words that immediately follow: "Thou
      shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly
      destroy them..." (Deut 20)

      Mason's comrade Underhill recalled how "… great and doleful was the
      bloody sight to the view of the young soldiers." Yet he reassured
      his readers that "Sometimes the Scripture declareth women and
      children must perish with their parents". [SH114]

      Other Indians were killed in successful plots of poisoning. The
      colonists even had dogs especially trained to kill Indians and to
      devour children from their mothers’ breasts, in the colonists' own
      words: "… Blood Hounds to draw after them, and Mastives to seaze
      them." This was inspired by Spanish methods of the time. In this
      way they continued until the extermination of the Pequots was near
      its completion. [SH107-119]

      The surviving handful of Indians "… were parceled out to live in
      servitude." John Endicott and his pastor wrote to the governor
      asking for a share of the captives, specifically "… a young woman or
      girle and a boy, if you thinke good." [SH115]

      Other tribes were to have a similar fate.

      Comment the Christian exterminators: "God's Will, which will at
      last give us cause to say: How Great is His Goodness! And How Great
      is his Beauty! Thus doth the Lord Jesus make them to bow before
      him, and to lick the Dust!" [TA]

      "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them.
      When the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the
      Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage
      both to surprise them, and cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106]

      In 1624, sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenceless
      Indian men, women and children. [SH107]

      In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some
      "600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered
      pastor of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the
      slaughter as a 'barbeque'." [SH115]

      _IN SUMMARY:_Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki
      people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than
      half a century later about 250 remained alive, a destruction rate of
      98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty
      years later they were down to 920, 95% destroyed. The
      Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about 30,000, fifty years
      later they were down to 1500, 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts
      people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6,000
      were alive, 81% destroyed. [SH118]

      These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living
      before Christian colonists set their foot on the 'New World.' All
      this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678.

      All the above was only the beginning of the European colonisation,
      it was before the frontier age had actually begun.

      Smallpox and other epidemics destroyed a total of maybe more than
      150 million Indians between 1500 and 1900, amounting two thirds of
      the population. This leaves some 50 million killed directly by
      violence, bad treatment and slavery.

      Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England's most esteemed
      religious leaders, in "… 1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts
      Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to
      purchase and train large packs of dogs 'to hunt Indians as they do
      bears'." [SH241]

      Massacre of Sand Creek in Colorado 29/11/1864. Colonel John
      Chivington, a former Methodist minister and still an elder in the
      church ("I long to be wading in gore") had a Cheyenne village of
      about 600, mostly women and children, gunned down despite the
      chiefs' waving a white flag: 400-500 killed.

      From an eye-witness account: "There were some thirty or forty squaws
      collected in a hole for protection; they sent out a little girl
      about six years old with a white flag on a stick; she had not
      proceeded but a few steps when she was shot and killed. All the
      squaws in that hole were afterwards killed..." [SH131]

      By the 1860s, "In Hawaii the Reverend Rufus Anderson surveyed the
      carnage that by then had reduced those islands’ native population by
      90 percent or more, and he declined to see it as tragedy; the
      expected total die-off of the Hawaiian population was only natural,
      this missionary said, somewhat equivalent to 'the amputation of
      diseased members of the body'." [SH244]


      [DA] K.Deschner, Abermals krahte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.

      [DO] K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.

      [EC] P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.

      [EJ] S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.

      [LI] H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.

      [MM] M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.

      [MV] A.Manhattan, The Vatican’s Holocaust, Springfield 1986. See
      also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo NY,

      [NC] J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the
      Catholic Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.

      [S2] Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 12:00.

      [SH] D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.

      [SP] German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.

      [TA] A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have
      Hapned in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New
      England, London 1676.

      [TG] F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.

      [WW] H.Wollschl„ger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem,
      Zurich 1973. (This is in german and what is worse, it is out of
      print. But it is the best I ever read about crusades and includes a
      full list of original medieval Christian chroniclers' writings).

      [WV] Estimates on the number of executed witches:

      *BOOKS *

      N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great
      Witch Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.

      R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York
      1959, 180.

      J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.


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