## Re: [kumi2] Re: Clockwise or Counter?

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• When using my husband s pattern generator for the 16 strand braid, some patterns look better when done to the left and others look better done to the right.
Message 1 of 6 , Oct 1, 2008
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When using my husband's pattern generator for the 16 strand braid, some
patterns look better when done to the left and others look better done to the
right. The pattern generator was generated for braiding Top-Right down,
Bottom-Left up Turn Counterclockwise. The pattern generator gives a good idea of
what is impossible, but being perfectly square, it does not quite capture the
potential of the finished braid.

Theresa

In a message dated 9/29/2008 11:39:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
fiziwig@... writes:

--- In kumi2@yahoogroups.com, "Terrence van Ettinger AKA Angus
MacLaren" <terrence@...> wrote:
>
> I was looking at Gary Shannon's kumihimo instructions, and in the
4-strand braid that he describes, he has the left and right threads
going *counter*clockwise. But when I learned 8 and 16-strand, I
learned to take the right/left strands *clockwise*. Is the
counterclockwise thing specific to 4-strand, or have I been doing my
8/16-strand braids wrong? Or can 4, 8, and 16-strand all go either way?
>
> Thanks,
> Terrence

The only real answer is, does it work? If clockwise works then go with
it. Every circular braid has a "left-handed" and "right-handed"
version. What they call in mathematical theory, its "chirality". (see
wikipedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality>)

Think of the difference between a clockwise braid and a
counter-clockwise braid as being like the difference between a left
glove and a right glove. The two gloves are the same, but yet they are
different, because they are mirror images of each other. Same with
clockwise vs. counter-clockwise braids. One is the mirror image of the
other, but both are "correct", and neither is "wrong".

--gary shannon

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• what is a pattern generator? Mike **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news
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what is a pattern generator?

Mike

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• My husband knew that there had to be a way to plan a pattern to see how to make it come out. We tried to just convert the one in the book to an Excel
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My husband knew that there had to be a way to plan a pattern to see how to
make it come out. We tried to just convert the one in the book to an Excel
spreadsheet, but it did not work out. What she called number 1 was my number
16. Then she is going around clockwise as I learned to go counterclockwise.
Then there was how the strings are offset. After a bunch of trial and error,
he came up with a fantastic pattern generator. After playing with the back
ground color of a few cells in the pattern, you can go to the side and make
each string of that number, the color you picked. Then with a key
combination, all the cells in the pattern with that number will be made the color you
picked. In this way, you can see if the pattern is possible. If it is close
but need to make # 3 green and #4 red, you just make the change along the side
and then do the key combination again to change them all.

I will try to include an example of the final product here.

I hope it comes through, let me know if it does not.

(mother) Theresa

In a message dated 10/1/2008 8:17:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
dimatteoca@... writes:

what is a pattern generator?

Mike

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• The picture did not come out for me so I put it in my photo album. (mother) Theresa and it is called, Example of Pattern Generated. In a message dated
Message 4 of 6 , Oct 1, 2008
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The picture did not come out for me so I put it in my photo album. (mother)
Theresa and it is called,
Example of Pattern Generated.

In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:31:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
annoney@... writes:

My husband knew that there had to be a way to plan a pattern to see how to
make it come out. We tried to just convert the one in the book to an Excel
spreadsheet, but it did not work out. What she called number 1 was my
number
16. Then she is going around clockwise as I learned to go
counterclockwise.
Then there was how the strings are offset. After a bunch of trial and
error,
he came up with a fantastic pattern generator. After playing with the back

ground color of a few cells in the pattern, you can go to the side and make
each string of that number, the color you picked. Then with a key
combination, all the cells in the pattern with that number will be made the
color you
picked. In this way, you can see if the pattern is possible. If it is
close
but need to make # 3 green and #4 red, you just make the change along the
side
and then do the key combination again to change them all.

I will try to include an example of the final product here.

I hope it comes through, let me know if it does not.

(mother) Theresa

In a message dated 10/1/2008 8:17:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
dimatteoca@... writes:

what is a pattern generator?

Mike

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and
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