RE: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 191
You are ahead of me. I am still using the foot straps. The biggest reason
why is that the water is only a couple feet deep at my favorite lake.
It took me a few sessions to really get dialed in on the Wake-N-Style, but I
noticed that I progressed much more rapidly once I started using the
Wake-N-Style. I have to agree that it was my salvation. Before I started
using the Wake-N-Style, kitesurfing was more agravating than fun.
From: Dave Raue [mailto:theraves@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 191
FWIW, I completely agree with you Kenny. I never bother to learn to jibe
directional either, and the Wake-n-style was my salvation. I got it after I
was doing water starts, ripping fast, and getting upwind on a directional
and I haven't really used the directional since. I put bindings on it my
second day out. I don't have the patience to get very analytical about
differences in technique, but I found that the differences weren't worth
mentioning and the wake-n-style took about 5 minutes to get wired in. My
analogy is to snow skiing - you weight differently in powder vs hardpack vs
ice, you just fool around with weight and stance a little and then it just
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farnsworth, Kenny" <kenny@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 191
> You are right about the technique for using a twin tip. It is a different
> technique, but I doubt that it is really much more difficult, just
> different. It took me a couple sessions to figure it out and I had my
> share of face plants (best avoided, by doing small power strokes to
> determine the strength of the wind, rather than starting with a big power
> stroke). Once I figured out the technique, I was sold.
> I hope you have the opportunity to get a twin tip in the near future. I
> going to try the new production Litewave Wake-N-Style in Oahu next week.
> will let you know what I think.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: martyn gilson [mailto:martyngilson@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:49 AM
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: RE: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 191
> Hi Kenny,
> I tried the twin tip with footstraps. I got going on
> it a couple of times but I think people at your
> standard quickly forget about the transition between
> these techniques.
> For instance, three things:
> Water starting a twin tip involves a different
> technique. With a larger directional, the extra
> volume is more forgiving. I had my feet in the
> straps, getting munched by the white water, dived the
> kite and stood up. It was windy and I had plenty of
> power but merely standing up as I do (well used to do)
> on a directional, sank the board like a brick. The
> predictable face plant was inevitable- nice. Ok, so
> the knees must be bent, arse touching the water until
> your on the plan and only then can one stand up and
> push with the legs. Well it feels like that in
> comparison to a directional.
> The other thing I found is that on a directional is
> that it can directed easier. Sounds obvious but a
> twin tip feels like kiting without fins until one hops
> on to the plane and uses the edge.
> Thirdly the flat rocker demands a different technique
> to get over chop, white water and waves.
> All I am saying is that it is a different technique.
> Maybe if these techniques are the first ones learnt
> and the technique transition is the difficult part
> then it is possible to learn on a wake style board.
> (Old dog new tricks?) :-)
> Heh, it's all in the kite flying, I am yet to hear
> about kite surfers using bare feet to surf. I bet
> some can and they can fly up wind on their size 10s.
> When I am better I am definitely getting a twin tip,
> just not yet...
> Must go - home time!
> --- "Farnsworth, Kenny" <kenny@...> wrote:
> > Martyn,
> > Did you try a twin tip with wakeboard bindings or
> > did it have foot straps?
> > The great thing about the Wake-N-Style is that you
> > can start out with foot
> > straps and then move to bindings when you feel
> > ready. I found that a big
> > directional (7'1") was a real pain in strong winds
> > and waves because it was
> > so difficult to acquire the board and keep it in
> > place. I have found the
> > Wake-N-Style to be much easier to handle and it
> > rides better in the chop.
> > Kenny
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: martyn gilson
> > [mailto:martyngilson@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 7:46 AM
> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 191
> > Hi Jon,
> > There is only one way to know and that is to blag a
> > go
> > on a twin tip style board. At the beginner stage,
> > you
> > need more kite AND board control to use a twin tip
> > (and again more for a wake board). Conditions like
> > flat water help a lot as the waves keep knocking the
> > board around making it difficult to start.
> > I recently had a go on a twin tip board (thinking
> > that
> > I will buy one as my only board) and it made up my
> > mind. Simply: I will not be getting one until I am
> > more competant. I will stick with my directional
> > for
> > this season and then possibly get a twin tip/wake n
> > style/wake board, as these are the boards to have,
> > however, there is still PLENTY of fun to have on
> > directionals.
> > Martyn
> > --- Jon Sykes <Jon.Sykes@...> wrote: > Hi,
> > >
> > > does anyone have any opinions on the Lightwave
> > > wake-n-style boards for
> > > beginners? The advertising implies that they would
> > > be great boards for
> > > beginners because you don't need to jibe to
> > change
> > > direction and they are
> > > great for upwind travel... but are they stable
> > > enough for us newbies? do you
> > > need as much wind as you would for a traditional
> > > wake board?
> > >
> > > any advice would be much appreciated...
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Jon
> > > Edinburgh, Scotland
> > >
> > > www.jon-sykes.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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