Re: [ksurfschool] Re: Snow .vs. water
- Snow vs Water
After flying my kite on land and having tried to
kitesurf on water this summer I was pleasantly
surprised to find myself learning so fast on snow.
Took a lesson with Hung, "Thanks for your time" and
within 2 hours I was riding back and forth, turning,
going upwind and jumping! This is much more progress
than what I was able to accomplish on water. From my
experience I would recommend going after a snowfall so
that there is more snow on the ice and knee pads
aren't a bad idea either. Kites with a 5th line are
also a good idea as Hung and I can testify when my
regular leash became tangled in the bar and I was then
dragged across the lake! Fortunately Hung was able to
save my kite, had I been alone I would have had to
release my kite and eventually pick up the shreds in
--- hungvuatnetcomdotca <hungvu2000@...>
It's safer to jump on water; however, as long as you
have more than 6"
of snow, it can be almost as safe.
The trick to jump safely on snow is to use only the
top portion of the
wind window such that if you make a mistake, the kite
provide considerable lift for a softer landing (BTW,
the air is much
thicker in colder weather and can provide more
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, jakob Thegerstr�m
> After kitesnowing the last weeks here in stockholm I
> agree that kitesnowboarding / skiing is easier to
> learn. And it's certainly safer because you got more
> empty space around you. However unless you got 1
> of powder snow to catch your landings I am notmy
> convinced that it is safer to jump on snow?!
> What learning technique do you use for teaching your
> students to jump?
> --- Hung Vu <hungvu2000@r...> skrev:
> Having kited on them for a number of years here are
> 10 observations:the
> 1- Kiting on snow is safer than on water (it sounds
> strange but it's
> true as you have no one and nothing around to make
> 2- They are almost identical if you want them to be
> and very different
> if you want them to be (kitesurfing and
> kitesnowboarding is mostly about
> jumps&tricks and kiteskiing is mostly about speed)
> 3- It's much more convenience to teach and learn on
> snow than on water
> (a student can go upwind and jump on the second day
> MY STUDENTS HAVEand
> DONE IT).
> 4- Learning on snow first reduce the learning curve
> 5- You can jump almost as high on snow as on water
> still notinflatables
> endanger yourself.
> 6- Foils are more convenience on snow but
> can also work onon
> both. Inflatables are likely to dominate the kiting
> scence (except for
> some high speed situations) unless the the foil
> companies (including
> Arc) can team up and do something...
> 7- If you want to go fast (80 km and up), use foil
> snow (and you canthat
> LAUGH that the fastest kiter on water, mostly LEIs,
> still go slower than
> 80 km/hr - I am trying to experiment the concept
> some modern LEIs,Yahoo!
> such as the GlobeRider Lift, can go as fast as or
> faster than foils on
> 8- If you want to jump high easily, use inflatables
> (modern inflatables
> can jump high easier than foils).
> 9- If you use inflatable, use a 5th line. The 5th
> line adds a quite a
> bit more safety and ease of relaunchability for both
> snow and water
> (actually, the 5th line make LEIs as convenience as
> foils on snow and
> make LEIs as convenience on water as on snow).
> 10- Snow is more convenience but water is still more
> P.S., Kiting is such a wonderful sport for colder
> climate as it is the
> ONLY 4 season outdoor sport as I know of except for
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