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  • Doug Kitchen
    Hi, Does anyone know anything about the C-Quad kites from Peter Lynn.I am looking for a light air kite. They advertise it for 0-7 mph,that is the 8.5.For
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      Hi,
      Does anyone know anything about the C-Quad kites from Peter Lynn.I am
      looking for a light air kite. They advertise it for 0-7 mph,that is the
      8.5.For 350..00 bucks this sounds too good to be true. Is it? What are the
      disadvantages compared to the ARC 11.0 M.Thanks in advance.
      Doug
      Kitchen
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:39 AM
      Subject: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 320


      > There are 8 messages in this issue.
      >
      > Topics in this digest:
      >
      > 1. New Precautions
      > From: kitesrfer@...
      > 2. RE: KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4 (com)
      > From: "David Stanek" <staff@...>
      > 3. Kite Surfer XXXL for sale cheap(com)
      > From: "Chris Moore" <kitesurftheearth@...>
      > 4. wipka bridle adjustment
      > From: Remtgnow@...
      > 5. Re: KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      > From: "Joe Storm" <bigairj@...>
      > 6. Re: wipka bridle adjustment
      > From: "paul menta" <pmenta@...>
      > 7. Re: KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      > From: Dave Raue <theraves@...>
      > 8. Re: wipka bridle adjustment
      > From: "Dwight & Jacky" <fishersfort@...>
      >
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
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      >
      > Message: 1
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:59:47 EDT
      > From: kitesrfer@...
      > Subject: New Precautions
      >
      >
      > A couple of new precautions have been generated on the regular kitesurf
      list
      > recently. I thought that they deserved repeating on this list. The
      > precautions are supported by one kitesurfer fatality in the Netherlands
      and a
      > competitive kitesurfer getting lofted 150 to 200 feet off the ground
      recently.
      >
      > They are as follows:
      >
      > 1. Kitesurfers should avoid coming near, say within a hundred feet, of
      > substantial vertical surfaces, such as buildings, cliffs, bluffs, etc., in
      > flyable onshore wind conditions. This would be to avoid getting caught in
      > the updraft flowing up the side of the structure along with the
      consequences
      > of coming down hard.
      >
      > 2. Avoid flying your kite near thermal generating conditions. Such
      > conditions may included heated dark fields, parking lots, large sandy
      areas,
      > rising masses or high ground i.e. hills, mountains or CONDOS OR OTHER TALL
      > BUILDINGS , clear skies with bright sun, cold fronts with high pressure
      > systems. Other likely thermal collectors to stay away from with a kite
      aloft
      > include large groups of trees, hot asphalt with cars, crop fields, etc.
      > essentially any large and dark area which can trap air PRIOR to the breeze
      > becoming strong enough to cause penetration and allow mixing. This
      > precaution would be to avoid suddenly getting lifted, perhaps to hundreds
      of
      > feet off the ground in an invisible thermal. Thermals are very common,
      > lofting kitesurfers are not, for whatever reason, so don't become too
      > intimidated. It just pays to be cautious. This precaution is admittedly
      > vague, largely because we are still learning about the phenomena. When in
      > doubt, don't fly. You could talk with local hang gliders and paragliders
      > about local thermal phenomena to gain more information. Also stay
      unhooked
      > while on land and at risk of getting lofted.
      >
      > For further information on both of these conditions refer to the regular
      > kitesurf list under the keywords "thermal" and "flight caution"
      >
      > Fly Safe,
      > Rick
      >
      >
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 2
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:55:12 -0700
      > From: "David Stanek" <staff@...>
      > Subject: RE: KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4 (com)
      >
      > Try JOJO WET 10.0 or even better new JOJO RAGE 10.0 - excellent quality,
      > performance and price will make you one happy rider - guaranteed!!
      >
      > David
      > www.skylinewings.com
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From:
      > sentto-1363319-1502-992495361-staff=skylinewings.com@...
      > [mailto:sentto-1363319-1502-992495361-staff=skylinewings.com@...
      > list.com]On Behalf Of kitesurf@...
      > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:09 PM
      > To: ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [ksurfschool] KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      >
      >
      > I want a light wind kite for the summer breeze 8-12 knts
      > I dont like the slow response of the big inflatable
      > (also they are too exp.)
      > I need to choose between the 2 kites - as they are on sale
      > the pro ks is gen 1 the XXXL is 2000 model.
      > which is stronger (Im 190 lbs on 7' directional )
      > whats the wind range of the 2 kites ?
      > which is more fun to fly ? (safe to fly )
      > any other comments on both kites are welcome .
      > thnks, T.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      >
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      >
      > Message: 3
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:24:53 -0000
      > From: "Chris Moore" <kitesurftheearth@...>
      > Subject: Kite Surfer XXXL for sale cheap(com)
      >
      > I have a Kite Surfer XXXL for sale that is in in mint shape, only flown a
      > couple of times. It is green in color and is regularly sold for
      $1,100.00.
      > I am asking $700.00. It is the newer version. I am familiar with the
      Kite
      > Surfer line and like the kite when flown on the Q-Boom control system and
      > set flatter so you can react to overflying the window and for quick and
      easy
      > reverse launching. I have not tried the Mosquito, but have watched others
      > struggle with the control bar system that doesn't allow you to easily
      > reverse launch and react to overflying. Contact me for more info.
      >
      > Chris 1-800-334-4777 ext. 46
      >
      > >I want a light wind kite for the summer breeze 8-12 knts
      > >I dont like the slow response of the big inflatable
      > >(also they are too exp.)
      > >I need to choose between the 2 kites - as they are on sale
      > >the pro ks is gen 1 the XXXL is 2000 model.
      > >which is stronger (Im 190 lbs on 7' directional )
      > >whats the wind range of the 2 kites ?
      > >which is more fun to fly ? (safe to fly )
      > >any other comments on both kites are welcome .
      > >thnks, T.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      >
      > Message: 4
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:39:55 EDT
      > From: Remtgnow@...
      > Subject: wipka bridle adjustment
      >
      > I have a new 11.8 airblast. (lucky me). I understand that there is an
      > adjustment that needs to be made. I'm told that the briles were made 26"
      too
      > long.
      > Where is the adj. made?
      > Anybody got any ideas?
      > Phil B
      >
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 5
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:52:45 -0400
      > From: "Joe Storm" <bigairj@...>
      > Subject: Re: KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      >
      > Go for the mosi I just got one at www.xkites.com for 679$ including
      > shipping...it actually relaunches, its got the new depower system, it
      comes
      > standard in 2-line setup...it's been detuned a little so that it doesn't
      > over fly either...plus for a brand new 2001 kite you can't beat their
      > price...
      >
      > -Joe
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: <kitesurf@...>
      > To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:09 AM
      > Subject: [ksurfschool] KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      >
      >
      > > I want a light wind kite for the summer breeze 8-12 knts
      > > I dont like the slow response of the big inflatable
      > > (also they are too exp.)
      > > I need to choose between the 2 kites - as they are on sale
      > > the pro ks is gen 1 the XXXL is 2000 model.
      > > which is stronger (Im 190 lbs on 7' directional )
      > > whats the wind range of the 2 kites ?
      > > which is more fun to fly ? (safe to fly )
      > > any other comments on both kites are welcome .
      > > thnks, T.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      > >
      > >
      >
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      > Message: 6
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:00:52 -0400
      > From: "paul menta" <pmenta@...>
      > Subject: Re: wipka bridle adjustment
      >
      > You can adjust the knot on the reactive briddle away from the kite 1 knot
      > back,this problem occured on some of the earlier models,but was changed,so
      > make sure you relaunch it as it is in the center knot first,if you dont
      have
      > too much slack its ok...hope this helps
      >
      > kite-on!!!!! Paul Menta www.kitesurftheearth.com
      >
      > Wipika trainer
      >
      >
      > ----Original Message Follows----
      > From: Remtgnow@...
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      > Subject: [ksurfschool] wipka bridle adjustment
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      > I have a new 11.8 airblast. (lucky me). I understand that there is an
      > adjustment that needs to be made. I'm told that the briles were made 26"
      too
      > long.
      > Where is the adj. made?
      > Anybody got any ideas?
      > Phil B
      >
      >
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      > Message: 7
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:45:54 -0400
      > From: Dave Raue <theraves@...>
      > Subject: Re: KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      >
      > I agree with Joe. How can you beat that? I had open-vent version of XXXL
      > and always found it annoying for kitesurfing. It luffed, it stalled, I
      > could never get upwind with it very well. OTOH I've come to love the
      Mossie
      > 9+, which I use more than any other kite. To be fair, my kitesurfing is
      FAR
      > better now than when I had XXXL. Anyway, if you get the 9+ use it 4-lined
      > on a jointed bar. This system RULES. All other systems for the 9+ turn
      it
      > into a pig (there's a big speed difference between the 9+ and 7.5). If
      you
      > have to 'sine' the kite you want to use a little brake on the upwind side
      to
      > speed up the downstroke. Even if there's hardly enough wind to plane this
      > technique will usually get you going fast enough that apparent wind starts
      > working and you can lock in. If you get the Mossie bar replace the joints
      > with windsurfing mast joints. They're thick, so I ground down the big
      > flange on a belt sander. I don't know why people whine about 4 lines.
      You
      > can reverse launch, recover from luffs all that. But it's not foregiving
      of
      > indifferent or sloppy kiteflying.
      >
      > -D
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Joe Storm" <bigairj@...>
      > To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:52 PM
      > Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      >
      >
      > > Go for the mosi I just got one at www.xkites.com for 679$ including
      > > shipping...it actually relaunches, its got the new depower system, it
      > comes
      > > standard in 2-line setup...it's been detuned a little so that it doesn't
      > > over fly either...plus for a brand new 2001 kite you can't beat their
      > > price...
      > >
      > > -Joe
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: <kitesurf@...>
      > > To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:09 AM
      > > Subject: [ksurfschool] KiteSurfer XXXL Pro or Mosquito ProKS 9.4
      > >
      > >
      > > > I want a light wind kite for the summer breeze 8-12 knts
      > > > I dont like the slow response of the big inflatable
      > > > (also they are too exp.)
      > > > I need to choose between the 2 kites - as they are on sale
      > > > the pro ks is gen 1 the XXXL is 2000 model.
      > > > which is stronger (Im 190 lbs on 7' directional )
      > > > whats the wind range of the 2 kites ?
      > > > which is more fun to fly ? (safe to fly )
      > > > any other comments on both kites are welcome .
      > > > thnks, T.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
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      > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      > Message: 8
      > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:22:15 -0400
      > From: "Dwight & Jacky" <fishersfort@...>
      > Subject: Re: wipka bridle adjustment
      >
      > That was fixed by Wipika a long time ago. I doubt your kite needs to be
      adjusted.
      >
      >
      > > I have a new 11.8 airblast. (lucky me). I understand that there is an
      > > adjustment that needs to be made. I'm told that the briles were made 26"
      too
      > > long.
      > > Where is the adj. made?
      > > Anybody got any ideas?
      > > Phil B
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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      > >
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