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Re: [ksurfschool] Waterlaunching open-celled foils [was Re: Thebiggest Ram Air wingonmarket.]

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  • Hung Vu
    For those who are looking for more reliable relaunching, I always recommend inflatables (both low and high performance inflatables). Hung.
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      For those who are looking for more reliable relaunching, I always
      recommend inflatables (both low and high performance inflatables).

      Hung.

      Dave Raue wrote:
      >
      > Hi Hung,
      >
      > I think this needs a little perspective, especially since it's the
      > 'ksurfschool' group. You're right, open cell foils can be relaunched,
      > sometimes. My first watersports kite was a skytiger hi-60 and I found that
      > water crashes didn't mean automatic swimming. Same with carious other buggy
      > kites. But let's not lead anybody into thinking for a second that
      > relaunching will be anywhere as reliable as with a relaunchable. Basically
      > you have to get everything exactly right AND have a bit of luck AND
      > preferably a crispy new kite that sheds water AND be quite expert with
      > handles. That's a lot of ANDS. This is a very different situation than,
      > say, a Mossie KS kite with bladders - the trick with those is keeping them
      > down!
      >
      > -Dave
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Hung Vu" <hungvu@...>
      > To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 7:52 PM
      > Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Waterlaunching open-celled foils [was Re:
      > Thebiggest Ram Air wingonmarket.]
      >
      > > First few techniques:
      > > 1- Use handles
      > > 2- Make sure you can turn the kite on a dime with your handles
      > > 3- Tune your brake lines such that the kite can reverse fairly easily
      > > without applying too much force
      > > 4- Don't pull, wait for the wind to create necessary line tension and
      > > then act when the line tension is sufficient (this comes with practice)
      > > 5- Swim backward immediately AFTER you reverse relaunch the kite to
      > > make it rise faster
      > > 6- Turn the kite on a dime immediately the moment it gets 5-10' off the
      > > water (in a reverse relaunch position) while continuing swimming
      > > backward
      > > 7- When crashing, forget about everything else, just focus on the kite
      > > and try to get it in a preferred position (if the kite is in a trailing
      > > edge down position then it would be a no brainer)
      > >
      > > There are more (more related to how to keep the kite in the air after a
      > > collapse or luffing) and I may "document" all of them in the future on
      > > my web site (if I can find time these days!). And there are the
      > > techniques not to let the foil pull your shoulder out of their sockets
      > > ...
      > >
      > > These work best on flat water and no wave. And remember that you have
      > > only 1 minute so the faster you response to the situation (this and item
      > > 4 seem somewhat contradictory so many has made mistake), the better
      > > chance you get it in the air.
      > >
      > > Hung.
      > >
      > > Mel wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hung Vu <hungvu@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > There is no such thing as a non water relauncheable foil. When there
      > is
      > > > > adequate wind, one should be able to relaunch an opened cell foil
      > fairly
      > > > > easily. Of course you have to do that skillfully and in less than 1
      > > > > minute before the water get in to the kite. I have learned such
      > > > > techniques after 2 years of using my opened cell XXXL on water and now
      > > > > am very confident with relaunching an opened cell foil when there is
      > > > > adequate wind (adequate wind is when the foil can fly stable straight
      > > > > over head without having to move the kite).
      > > >
      > > > Wow! That's pretty impressive. The foil guys around here are pretty
      > good
      > > > (way better than me), & I've never seen them relaunch (unless you count
      > the
      > > > kite just BARELY touching the water for a fraction of a second). Are
      > your
      > > > techniques posted on your website?
      > > >
      > > > Mel
      > > >
      > > >
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