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  • Gary Sowell
    Jan 1, 2002
      Aloha Doug....
      I'm 210 pounds and like you, I love the light winds...
      I have a naish 23.5m ARX and I have a Wipi 16monster...
      The naish will get you up in the wind range you are looking at...
      The board I use in winds like this is the lite wave dave 169....
      Foils are a bit scary to fly when they are that big... I had the Mosquito 9+
      and after having some mishaps with that kite, I will never fly a foil again
      (other than the arc)....

      Hope this helps...

      Gary
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Doug Kitchen" <doug@...>
      To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 1:28 PM
      Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 502


      > Hi Everyone,
      > I started kitesurfing because I was tired of sitting on the beach
      waiting
      > for wind for my windsurfer. I fugure I can ride my 8'8 90 litre wave
      board
      > in 12 knots with a 5.6 wave sail. I started with a Wipika 11.0 meter Free
      > Air. I realize now that I need at least 15 knots for this kite. I bought
      a
      > RRD 14.9, the sad truth is I need 12 knots with this kite. I weigh 190 lbs
      > and am riding a 6.6 directional. I understand that foils are better than
      > frame kites in light wind. Can anyone recommend me a foil that will get me
      > powered up in 5-10 knots.Does anyone know if the Peter Lynn 14.0
      > m ARC ever got released and what kind of performance I can expect out of
      > it.Am I expecting too much? I started kitesurfing because I heard about
      the
      > light wind possibilities,but now I wonder but Iam hooked now so there is
      no
      > turning back.
      > Thanks,
      > Doug
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      > To: <ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 2:59 PM
      > Subject: [ksurfschool] Digest Number 502
      >
      >
      > > There are 2 messages in this issue.
      > >
      > > Topics in this digest:
      > >
      > > 1. Re: Low AR .vs. high AR
      > > From: "fernmanus" <fernmanus@...>
      > > 2. Re: New Year 2002 predictions
      > > From: Hung Vu <hungvu@...>
      > >
      > >
      > > ________________________________________________________________________
      > > ________________________________________________________________________
      > >
      > > Message: 1
      > > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:48:34 -0000
      > > From: "fernmanus" <fernmanus@...>
      > > Subject: Re: Low AR .vs. high AR
      > >
      > > Hung,
      > >
      > > Good observations. I wish to add a couple more thoughts.
      > >
      > > Where I live the wind is generally light (Salt Lake City, UT).
      > > Therefore, I use high AR kites. The primary reason is for jumping.
      > > I have found the large high AR kites to be more responsive. When you
      > > jump, the faster you can move the kite overhead, the more pop you
      > > will have off the water. I found it very difficult to jump with slow
      > > moving large kites.
      > >
      > > I have kite surfed in high wind conditions as well. In high wind
      > > conditions a low AR is nice because the kite is more stable and will
      > > feel less twitchy.
      > >
      > > Kenny
      > >
      > > --- In ksurfschool@y..., Hung Vu <hungvu@n...> wrote:
      > > > Many people worldwide have asked me these questions and I have
      > > answered
      > > > many. I thought it would be useful to post them here:
      > > >
      > > > Use a low AR kite in high wind (above 20 knots)
      > > >
      > > > Use a high AR kite in low wind (below 10 knots)
      > > >
      > > > Between 10 - 20 knots use anything you have...
      > > >
      > > > So if you live in Maui or other high wind destinations (where most
      > > pros
      > > > are), don't need to buy a high AR kite.
      > > >
      > > > If you live in Ottawa, Canada, buy both high AR and low AR kite as
      > > the
      > > > wind can be anywhere between 5 - 45 knots.
      > > >
      > > > P.S. the assumption is that high AR kites are faster, it may not be
      > > true
      > > > for some kites...
      > > >
      > > > P.P.S. If you kiteski or want to go fast, high AR is the only
      > > answer...
      > > >
      > > > P.P.P.S. What the pros want may not be what YOU want...
      > > >
      > > > Hung.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ________________________________________________________________________
      > > ________________________________________________________________________
      > >
      > > Message: 2
      > > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:34:40 -0500
      > > From: Hung Vu <hungvu@...>
      > > Subject: Re: New Year 2002 predictions
      > >
      > > Chris,
      > >
      > > Very interesting! Let me add some more:
      > >
      > > -- Fins will start to disappear as kitesurfers start to realize that
      > > fins are more costly, cumbersome than helpful
      > >
      > > -- With the new finless, properly shaped boards, kitesurfers start to go
      > > as fast as windsurfers
      > >
      > > -- Foils will become more popular (than they are now) as they are faster
      > > and jump higher
      > >
      > > -- People will realize that by inflating the leading edge with helium
      > > will make inflatables less prone to the "dead seagull drop" (hahaha
      > > someone has asked for it...)
      > >
      > > -- Properly shaped finless board will generate higher lift allow boards
      > > to be smaller (120 x 30 cm range) and still ride in lower wind
      > >
      > > -- Handles will become more popular (than they are now) in lighter wind
      > > as they are the best to manipulate foils in such extreme conditions
      > >
      > > -- Kites will be designed/marketed clearly in three different groups:
      > > light wind, medium wind and high wind kites where low AR inflatable
      > > dominate the high wind group, foils dominate the light wind group and
      > > fierce competition for the medium group for many manufacturers
      > >
      > > Hung.
      > >
      > >
      > > Ok, here's my predictions for kitesurfing next year,
      > > 2002..
      > >
      > > -- Next years kites will all have more more wind range
      > > ..because
      > > that's what we all want.
      > >
      > > -- The end of picklefork boards. New board shapes will
      > > have
      > > more blunt tails.
      > >
      > > -- Footstraps will continue to be popular and will NOT
      > > all be
      > > replaced by full bindings.
      > >
      > > -- On new 4 line inflatables, rigid carbon battens at
      > > the tips will
      > > be common.
      > >
      > > -- Better safety release/leash systems will be marketed
      > > (they can't
      > > be worse than what is available now).
      > >
      > > -- All kite manufacturers will agree on a size standard
      > > (ha
      > > ha ..just kidding with this one).
      > >
      > > -- Someone will post a "new" idea to fill an inflatable
      > > with helium
      > > (ughh ..not again).
      > >
      > > -- Some products will fade into obscurity like reel
      > > bars, high
      > > volume boards, and using handles.
      > >
      > > -- Kite and board prices will drop somewhat due to
      > > competition
      > > (..not sure about this one).
      > >
      > > -- Kiting will become more mainstream and acceptable and
      > > will NOT be
      > > banned at many more beaches.
      > >
      > > -- The number of kite manufacturers will stop growing as
      > > newcomers
      > > find it hard to compete against the Naish, Wipika,
      > > Cabrinha,
      > > Slingshot, Peter Lynn, Airrush, North.
      > >
      > > -- Foil kites will do well in the very large sizes (over
      > > 15.5AR5).
      > >
      > > -- Kites will come with long lines (>30m) for big kite
      > > sizes and
      > > shorter lines (<25m) for small kite sizes.
      > >
      > > -- Serious accidents will happen where helmet use could
      > > have helped!
      > >
      > > -- Someone will break the hang time record with over 10
      > > seconds.
      > >
      > >
      > > Chris G
      > >
      > >
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