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  • Eric Savener
    Hey Kinsley, Thanks for the response. I spent a lot of time on your website looking up paragliding/paramotor equip. a few months ago (I bought a Fly Products,
    Message 1 of 53 , Feb 1, 2000
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      Hey Kinsley,

      Thanks for the response. I spent a lot of time on your website looking
      up paragliding/paramotor equip. a few months ago (I bought a Fly
      Products, but you weren't a dealer then). Now I've been looking at
      kitesurfing stuff there too. I watched kitesurf jumping and speed runs
      on some sports channel today and it got me all fired up.

      I had so many people poo-poo the C-Quad idea that I've changed my mind.
      I think I'll hold off for a month or 2 until I can afford a
      Wipika/Naish inflatable, or a Mosquito Pro KS. Those are the ones I
      REALLY want. As soon as I decide I'll buy something from you. How
      about running a "Spring Clearance Sale" sometime soon?

      Eric

      "xtreme big air" <kinsle-@...> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9615
      > Eric,
      > Go Big and Live Extreme! Got to have the right equipment in this
      sport!
      > You might want to check www.XtremeBigAir.com/KiteSurfing
      > for gear review and used Kites.
      > On the other hand, talk to me :-) We will get you a kite so you can GO
      > BIG.
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Kinsley
      > http://XtremeBigAir.com
      >
      > "eric savener" <eric_savene-@...> wrote:
      > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9561
      > > Let's just say that I'm damn glad I asked.
      > >
      > > It looks like we're delaying our kite purchase for now. The prices
      of
      > > the ones we REALLY want are $1,000 to $1,100 and the one we could
      live
      > > with (C-Quad) is about $450. It looks like a cool sport, but I'm
      not
      > > sure it's $1,100 worth of cool and we can't decide whether or not to
      > > buy the cheaper one, so we're going to think about it for a while.
      > The
      > > water is probably too damn cold right now anyway (in Texas). I HATE
      > > cold water.
      > >
      > > I have the same problem with used kites that I had with paragliders
      -
      > I
      > > don't want to buy one sight unseen and there just are not any around
      > > here to go look at. I still may buy a C-Quad and I still may buy a
      > > used something else that is absolutely water relaunchable.
      > >
      > > I really appreciate all of the input. One of my continuing sources
      of
      > > info. will be to go back through the previous few weeks msgs. to
      learn
      > > more.
      > >
      > > Eric
      > >
      > > "erik fryman" <efryma-@...> wrote:
      > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9549
      > > > I too was in the same boat as Eric, I wanted a kite for
      Kitesurfing
      > > but
      > > > didn't really want to spend the money for a "real" water
      > > re-launchable kite.
      > > > I got the C-quad because I read on the Peter Lynn site that it was
      > > > re-launchable and it was cheap. Well after having flown the C-quad
      > on
      > > land
      > > > for awhile I took it out on the water for some body dragging. And
      I
      > > can
      > > > testify that this kite is by no means re-launchable. Every time I
      > > dumped it
      > > > in the water it was impossible for me to get it back up again.
      Even
      > > when I
      > > > was standing in ankle deep water. At least I learned to fly a
      4-line
      > > kite
      > > > fairly well with it. Finally broke down and got a CA, even though
      I
      > > haven't
      > > > had much luck with it. Got another tear on the bottom skin the
      other
      > > day
      > > > while out body dragging. Think I will send it back to Michel and
      > have
      > > him
      > > > take a look at it.
      > > > Winds are supposed to be 15 mph and cross-shore tomorrow, so I
      think
      > > I'll
      > > > venture out with my C-quad. Just have to try and keep it in the
      air.
      > > Heading
      > > > down to Key West on Friday, so hopefully I'll have my problems
      with
      > > the CA
      > > > worked out by then.
      > > >
      > > > Erik
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: "Eric Savener" <eric_savener@...>
      > > > To: <kitesurf@...>
      > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:27 PM
      > > > Subject: [ksurf] Re: Surf kite buying decision - good/bad?
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > > You, my friend, are correct. I will shut up now and I REALLY
      > > > > appreciate all of the feedback everyone has provided. I'm
      always
      > > > > amazed when everyone is so unselfish with their time. I will
      have
      > > to
      > > > > "fly" close to the beach or on the bay.
      > > > >
      > > > > Eric
      > > > >
      > > > > "dave raue" <therave-@...> wrote:
      > > > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9
      486
      > > > > > Well Eric, you said upfront that you've made your decision.
      Now
      > > > > you've
      > > > > > gotten a lot of feedback. All I can tell you is this: I've
      > been
      > > on
      > > > > this
      > > > > > group from the day 1, and I've never heard anybody - except
      > Paul -
      > > > > claim
      > > > > > that the C-quad is remotely relaunchable. As for what's
      posted
      > > > > onPL's site,
      > > > > > the relaunchable story is not the only bullshit (don't ask).
      > :-(
      > > > > >
      > > > > > You should also be aware that many or even most of the
      > traditional
      > > > > kiteshops
      > > > > > selling C-Quads are just repeating what PL has told them about
      > > > > > relaunchabilty. And most of these shops are NOT catering to
      > > > > kitesurfers,
      > > > > > they sell more to buggiers. They're very knowledgeable, but
      > > better
      > > > > ask them
      > > > > > if they've personally been out on the water. But what
      > diferenece
      > > > > does it
      > > > > > make? You're going with the C-Quad anyway. Good luck, have
      > fun,
      > > and
      > > > > > practice, practice, practice on land first.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Dave
      > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > > From: Eric Savener <eric_savener@...>
      > > > > > To: <kitesurf@...>
      > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 1:56 PM
      > > > > > Subject: [ksurf] Surf kite buying decision - good/bad?
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > > Okay, I want somebody to shoot holes in my decision, or
      > > validate it
      > > > > for
      > > > > > > me. Any advice will be appreciated.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > I fly a powered paraglider at the beach, but when the wind
      > gets
      > > > > above
      > > > > > > 10 mph, I can't fly. I need a toy for windy days (or when
      I'm
      > > > > grounded
      > > > > > > because my Dad is flying) and when I saw a guy kitesurfing
      at
      > > the
      > > > > > > beach, I knew it was perfect. We have lots of toys and are
      > > both in
      > > > > > > good shape, so we should be able to pick it up fairly
      > quickly.
      > > We
      > > > > want
      > > > > > > a good beginner kite, but still be able to perform once we
      get
      > > the
      > > > > hang
      > > > > > > of it without having to buy another kite.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > I've decided on a Peter Lynn C-Quad 6.3m because it is water
      > > > > > > relaunchable, has good upwind capabilities, seems to be the
      > > right
      > > > > size
      > > > > > > for our weight and wind range (we're both 185 lbs and normal
      > > days at
      > > > > > > Padre Island in Texas are 8 - 14 mph winds, and it's CHEAP.
      > It
      > > is
      > > > > 1/2
      > > > > > > the cost (or less - around $500 or less with
      > > handles/lines/shipping
      > > > > ) of
      > > > > > > the other kitesurfing kites like Wipika, Naish, Quadrifoil,
      > etc.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > I plan to use a Skurfer (looks like the kitesurfing boards
      > I've
      > > > > seen on
      > > > > > > web pages) &/or wakeboard since I already own both.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Somebody with knowledge or expertise please tell me why or
      why
      > > not
      > > > > this
      > > > > > > is a good decision.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Eric - Austin, Texas
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
    • Eric Savener
      Hey Kinsley, Thanks for the response. I spent a lot of time on your website looking up paragliding/paramotor equip. a few months ago (I bought a Fly Products,
      Message 53 of 53 , Feb 1, 2000
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        Hey Kinsley,

        Thanks for the response. I spent a lot of time on your website looking
        up paragliding/paramotor equip. a few months ago (I bought a Fly
        Products, but you weren't a dealer then). Now I've been looking at
        kitesurfing stuff there too. I watched kitesurf jumping and speed runs
        on some sports channel today and it got me all fired up.

        I had so many people poo-poo the C-Quad idea that I've changed my mind.
        I think I'll hold off for a month or 2 until I can afford a
        Wipika/Naish inflatable, or a Mosquito Pro KS. Those are the ones I
        REALLY want. As soon as I decide I'll buy something from you. How
        about running a "Spring Clearance Sale" sometime soon?

        Eric

        "xtreme big air" <kinsle-@...> wrote:
        original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9615
        > Eric,
        > Go Big and Live Extreme! Got to have the right equipment in this
        sport!
        > You might want to check www.XtremeBigAir.com/KiteSurfing
        > for gear review and used Kites.
        > On the other hand, talk to me :-) We will get you a kite so you can GO
        > BIG.
        >
        > Cheers,
        > Kinsley
        > http://XtremeBigAir.com
        >
        > "eric savener" <eric_savene-@...> wrote:
        > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9561
        > > Let's just say that I'm damn glad I asked.
        > >
        > > It looks like we're delaying our kite purchase for now. The prices
        of
        > > the ones we REALLY want are $1,000 to $1,100 and the one we could
        live
        > > with (C-Quad) is about $450. It looks like a cool sport, but I'm
        not
        > > sure it's $1,100 worth of cool and we can't decide whether or not to
        > > buy the cheaper one, so we're going to think about it for a while.
        > The
        > > water is probably too damn cold right now anyway (in Texas). I HATE
        > > cold water.
        > >
        > > I have the same problem with used kites that I had with paragliders
        -
        > I
        > > don't want to buy one sight unseen and there just are not any around
        > > here to go look at. I still may buy a C-Quad and I still may buy a
        > > used something else that is absolutely water relaunchable.
        > >
        > > I really appreciate all of the input. One of my continuing sources
        of
        > > info. will be to go back through the previous few weeks msgs. to
        learn
        > > more.
        > >
        > > Eric
        > >
        > > "erik fryman" <efryma-@...> wrote:
        > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9549
        > > > I too was in the same boat as Eric, I wanted a kite for
        Kitesurfing
        > > but
        > > > didn't really want to spend the money for a "real" water
        > > re-launchable kite.
        > > > I got the C-quad because I read on the Peter Lynn site that it was
        > > > re-launchable and it was cheap. Well after having flown the C-quad
        > on
        > > land
        > > > for awhile I took it out on the water for some body dragging. And
        I
        > > can
        > > > testify that this kite is by no means re-launchable. Every time I
        > > dumped it
        > > > in the water it was impossible for me to get it back up again.
        Even
        > > when I
        > > > was standing in ankle deep water. At least I learned to fly a
        4-line
        > > kite
        > > > fairly well with it. Finally broke down and got a CA, even though
        I
        > > haven't
        > > > had much luck with it. Got another tear on the bottom skin the
        other
        > > day
        > > > while out body dragging. Think I will send it back to Michel and
        > have
        > > him
        > > > take a look at it.
        > > > Winds are supposed to be 15 mph and cross-shore tomorrow, so I
        think
        > > I'll
        > > > venture out with my C-quad. Just have to try and keep it in the
        air.
        > > Heading
        > > > down to Key West on Friday, so hopefully I'll have my problems
        with
        > > the CA
        > > > worked out by then.
        > > >
        > > > Erik
        > > >
        > > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > > From: "Eric Savener" <eric_savener@...>
        > > > To: <kitesurf@...>
        > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:27 PM
        > > > Subject: [ksurf] Re: Surf kite buying decision - good/bad?
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > > You, my friend, are correct. I will shut up now and I REALLY
        > > > > appreciate all of the feedback everyone has provided. I'm
        always
        > > > > amazed when everyone is so unselfish with their time. I will
        have
        > > to
        > > > > "fly" close to the beach or on the bay.
        > > > >
        > > > > Eric
        > > > >
        > > > > "dave raue" <therave-@...> wrote:
        > > > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9
        486
        > > > > > Well Eric, you said upfront that you've made your decision.
        Now
        > > > > you've
        > > > > > gotten a lot of feedback. All I can tell you is this: I've
        > been
        > > on
        > > > > this
        > > > > > group from the day 1, and I've never heard anybody - except
        > Paul -
        > > > > claim
        > > > > > that the C-quad is remotely relaunchable. As for what's
        posted
        > > > > onPL's site,
        > > > > > the relaunchable story is not the only bullshit (don't ask).
        > :-(
        > > > > >
        > > > > > You should also be aware that many or even most of the
        > traditional
        > > > > kiteshops
        > > > > > selling C-Quads are just repeating what PL has told them about
        > > > > > relaunchabilty. And most of these shops are NOT catering to
        > > > > kitesurfers,
        > > > > > they sell more to buggiers. They're very knowledgeable, but
        > > better
        > > > > ask them
        > > > > > if they've personally been out on the water. But what
        > diferenece
        > > > > does it
        > > > > > make? You're going with the C-Quad anyway. Good luck, have
        > fun,
        > > and
        > > > > > practice, practice, practice on land first.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Dave
        > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > > > > From: Eric Savener <eric_savener@...>
        > > > > > To: <kitesurf@...>
        > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 1:56 PM
        > > > > > Subject: [ksurf] Surf kite buying decision - good/bad?
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > > > Okay, I want somebody to shoot holes in my decision, or
        > > validate it
        > > > > for
        > > > > > > me. Any advice will be appreciated.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > I fly a powered paraglider at the beach, but when the wind
        > gets
        > > > > above
        > > > > > > 10 mph, I can't fly. I need a toy for windy days (or when
        I'm
        > > > > grounded
        > > > > > > because my Dad is flying) and when I saw a guy kitesurfing
        at
        > > the
        > > > > > > beach, I knew it was perfect. We have lots of toys and are
        > > both in
        > > > > > > good shape, so we should be able to pick it up fairly
        > quickly.
        > > We
        > > > > want
        > > > > > > a good beginner kite, but still be able to perform once we
        get
        > > the
        > > > > hang
        > > > > > > of it without having to buy another kite.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > I've decided on a Peter Lynn C-Quad 6.3m because it is water
        > > > > > > relaunchable, has good upwind capabilities, seems to be the
        > > right
        > > > > size
        > > > > > > for our weight and wind range (we're both 185 lbs and normal
        > > days at
        > > > > > > Padre Island in Texas are 8 - 14 mph winds, and it's CHEAP.
        > It
        > > is
        > > > > 1/2
        > > > > > > the cost (or less - around $500 or less with
        > > handles/lines/shipping
        > > > > ) of
        > > > > > > the other kitesurfing kites like Wipika, Naish, Quadrifoil,
        > etc.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > I plan to use a Skurfer (looks like the kitesurfing boards
        > I've
        > > > > seen on
        > > > > > > web pages) &/or wakeboard since I already own both.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Somebody with knowledge or expertise please tell me why or
        why
        > > not
        > > > > this
        > > > > > > is a good decision.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Eric - Austin, Texas
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
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