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  • Rony Jabbour
    todd snyder wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552 ... How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to
    Message 1 of 10 , Feb 1, 2000
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      todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
      original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552
      > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl & xxxl


      How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it relatively
      fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good time in?
      etc....

      I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big kites
      with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my opinion of
      them!

      Thanks for your answers,
      Rony
    • Dave Raue
      FWIW, I use non-KS models of the same kites and I love em. I ve found the XXXL to be remarkably luff resistant and very responsive for it s size. But
      Message 2 of 10 , Feb 1, 2000
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        FWIW, I use non-KS models of the same kites and I love 'em. I've found
        the XXXL to be remarkably luff resistant and very responsive for it's
        size. But obviously it's not a Flexi stacker! In fact I can't ever
        remember water-crashing it except for one time that I was in a tidal
        creek where the current was about headed downwind at 4 kts and wind
        only 6 or so, and lines kept going slack! For me XXXL is useable over
        5-6 kts and starts getting too wild over 12 or so. I'm 200# on 7'2"
        Fox board. but I'm a pussy, probably Todd is more courageous :-))

        Dave

        "rony jabbour" <peacesur-@...> wrote:
        original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9591
        > todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
        > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552
        > > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl & xxxl
        >
        >
        > How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it relatively
        > fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good time in?
        > etc....
        >
        > I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big kites
        > with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my opinion of
        > them!
        >
        > Thanks for your answers,
        > Rony
        >
      • Clarin Mustad
        Give Kory a call he is working on a 3 lines KiteSki reel bar http://www.kiteskiworld.com/ Clarin ... From: KiteBoard@aol.com [mailto:KiteBoard@aol.com] Sent:
        Message 3 of 10 , Feb 1, 2000
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          Give Kory a call he is working on a 3 lines KiteSki reel bar
          http://www.kiteskiworld.com/
          Clarin


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          Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:37 PM
          To: kitesurf@egroups.com
          Subject: [ksurf] Re: 3-line Quadrifoil KS + 3 lines with reel bar


          In a message dated 1/31/00 10:41:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
          raffig@... writes:

          << is there any chance to set up a kiteski reel bar for
          a three-line configuration? I thought about attaching a fixed brake line in
          the middle of the bar while reeling out both left/right lines as usual.
          Would this work out? >>

          I doubt it. The brake line would likely tangle. You wouldn't be able to
          change line lengths. The reason I mention that is because it's another
          reason for having a reelbar with a foil: 1) No line tangling, 2) variable
          line length, 3) No laying lines on ground to launch, 4)...? What's your
          reason? (you don't seem concerned about the 3 I've listed).

          Tom

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        • Todd Snyder
          I use the f.one board 215 with xxxl ks model and need at least a steady 10 to get going and I weigh 215lb.It starts to get fun in 15 +.There s no way it would
          Message 4 of 10 , Feb 2, 2000
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            I use the f.one board 215 with xxxl ks model and need at least a steady 10 to get going and I weigh 215lb.It starts to get fun in 15 +.There's no way it would pull me in 5 or 6knots in the water you think that 15lb. makes a differents?

            Later ,
            Todd

            Dave Raue wrote:

            FWIW, I use non-KS models of the same kites and I love 'em.  I've found
            the XXXL to be remarkably luff resistant and very responsive for it's
            size.  But obviously it's not a Flexi stacker!  In fact I can't ever
            remember water-crashing it except for one time that I was in a tidal
            creek where the current was about headed downwind at 4 kts and wind
            only 6 or so, and lines kept going slack! For me XXXL is useable over
            5-6 kts and starts getting too wild over 12 or so.  I'm 200# on 7'2"
            Fox board.  but I'm a pussy, probably Todd is more courageous  :-))

            Dave

             "rony jabbour" <peacesur-@...> wrote:
            original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9591
            > todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
            > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552
            > > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl & xxxl
            >
            >
            > How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it relatively
            > fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good time in?
            > etc....
            >
            > I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big kites
            > with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my opinion of
            > them!
            >
            > Thanks for your answers,
            > Rony
            >

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          • Dave Raue
            todd snyder wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9745 ... steady 10 ... no way ... makes a ... No, not
            Message 5 of 10 , Feb 4, 2000
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              todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
              original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9745
              > I use the f.one board 215 with xxxl ks model and need at least a
              steady 10
              > to get going and I weigh 215lb.It starts to get fun in 15 +.There's
              no way
              > it would pull me in 5 or 6knots in the water you think that 15lb.
              makes a
              > differents?

              No, not that big a difference. To be sure, 5-6 is on the low side,
              probably 6-7 is more real. And for me that means stuggling to stay up
              on a plane, looping the kite, and certainly no upwind, jumping or
              anything like that. But I've done it , to be sure. To me "usable"
              means you can get out and do something - anything - while windsurfers
              just sit on the beach. Now I'm also 8 lbs heavier too than at the
              time. 22# would be different, a little anyway.
              >
              > Later ,
              > Todd
              >
              > Dave Raue wrote:
              >
              > > FWIW, I use non-KS models of the same kites and I love 'em. I've
              found
              > > the XXXL to be remarkably luff resistant and very responsive for
              it's
              > > size. But obviously it's not a Flexi stacker! In fact I can't ever
              > > remember water-crashing it except for one time that I was in a tidal
              > > creek where the current was about headed downwind at 4 kts and wind
              > > only 6 or so, and lines kept going slack! For me XXXL is useable
              over
              > > 5-6 kts and starts getting too wild over 12 or so. I'm 200# on 7'2"
              > > Fox board. but I'm a pussy, probably Todd is more courageous :-))
              > >
              > > Dave
              > >
              > > "rony jabbour" <peacesur-@...> wrote:
              > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9591
              > > > todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
              > > > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552
              > > > > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl & xxxl
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it
              relatively
              > > > fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good
              time in?
              > > > etc....
              > > >
              > > > I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big
              kites
              > > > with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my
              opinion of
              > > > them!
              > > >
              > > > Thanks for your answers,
              > > > Rony
              > > >
              > >
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            • Dave Raue
              Hi Todd, Oh yeah, I forgot one possibly critical detail: this is with handles, not a bar! And in such low wind I have to really work the kite hard. I m not
              Message 6 of 10 , Feb 4, 2000
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                Hi Todd,
                Oh yeah, I forgot one possibly critical detail:  this is with handles, not a bar!  And in such low wind I have to really work the kite hard.  I'm not sure it would be possible with a bar, I'd be surprised if you could turn it fast enough to keep it well powered.  Anyway, that might account for at least some of the difference.
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                Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:34 PM
                Subject: [ksurf] Re: 3-line Quadrifoil KS + 3 lines with reel bar

                I use the f.one board 215 with xxxl ks model and need at least a steady 10 to get going and I weigh 215lb.It starts to get fun in 15 +.There's no way it would pull me in 5 or 6knots in the water you think that 15lb. makes a differents?

                Later ,
                Todd

                Dave Raue wrote:

                FWIW, I use non-KS models of the same kites and I love 'em.  I've found
                the XXXL to be remarkably luff resistant and very responsive for it's
                size.  But obviously it's not a Flexi stacker!  In fact I can't ever
                remember water-crashing it except for one time that I was in a tidal
                creek where the current was about headed downwind at 4 kts and wind
                only 6 or so, and lines kept going slack! For me XXXL is useable over
                5-6 kts and starts getting too wild over 12 or so.  I'm 200# on 7'2"
                Fox board.  but I'm a pussy, probably Todd is more courageous  :-))

                Dave

                 "rony jabbour" <peacesur-@...> wrote:
                original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9591
                > todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
                > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552
                > > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl & xxxl
                >
                >
                > How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it relatively
                > fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good time in?
                > etc....
                >
                > I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big kites
                > with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my opinion of
                > them!
                >
                > Thanks for your answers,
                > Rony
                >

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              • Todd Snyder
                I m going to try and lose that 15 20 lb. But Its hard for me to put down the heavy metal and to stop eating all that red meat mmmmmm love steak and eggs in the
                Message 7 of 10 , Feb 8, 2000
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                  I'm going to try and lose that 15 20 lb. But Its hard for me to put down the heavy metal and to stop eating all that red meat mmmmmm love steak and eggs in the morning with some corn bread on the side .Its hard to beat old habbits specially when it taste so good. The more I lift the more I eat............

                  Later,
                  Todd

                  Raul F Argilagos wrote:

                  Todd, believe me , in k-surfing as oppossed to
                  windsurfing, weight makes a hell of a difference.
                  I went from 220 to 190#s and use a 9.0ATK and
                  215 fone, it made huge difference. my friend is
                  155#, on the exact same rig/board, he would be
                  powered in even less. at 220# it took 11kts, at 190#s
                  about 9-10kts and at 155# about 8kts.
                  Raul

                  On Wed, 02 Feb 2000 18:34:59 -0800 Todd Snyder <boomjib@...>
                  writes:
                  >

                  >
                  >I use the f.one board 215 with xxxl ks model and need at least a
                  >steady 10
                  >to get going and I weigh 215lb.It starts to get fun in 15 +.There's no
                  >way
                  >it would pull me in 5 or 6knots in the water you think that 15lb.
                  >makes a
                  >differents?
                  >
                  >Later ,
                  >Todd
                  >
                  ><br>> todd snyder &lt;boomji-@...> wrote:
                  ><br>> original article:<a
                  >href="http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552">http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552</a>
                  ><br>> > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl &amp; xxxl
                  ><br>>
                  ><br>>
                  ><br>> How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it
                  >relatively
                  ><br>> fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good
                  >time
                  >in?
                  ><br>> etc....
                  ><br>>
                  ><br>> I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big
                  >kites
                  ><br>> with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my
                  >opinion
                  >of
                  ><br>> them!
                  ><br>>
                  ><br>> Thanks for your answers,
                  ><br>> Rony
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                • Raul F Argilagos
                  Todd, believe me , in k-surfing as oppossed to windsurfing, weight makes a hell of a difference. I went from 220 to 190#s and use a 9.0ATK and 215 fone, it
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                    Todd, believe me , in k-surfing as oppossed to
                    windsurfing, weight makes a hell of a difference.
                    I went from 220 to 190#s and use a 9.0ATK and
                    215 fone, it made huge difference. my friend is
                    155#, on the exact same rig/board, he would be
                    powered in even less. at 220# it took 11kts, at 190#s
                    about 9-10kts and at 155# about 8kts.
                    Raul

                    On Wed, 02 Feb 2000 18:34:59 -0800 Todd Snyder <boomjib@...>
                    writes:
                    >

                    >
                    >I use the f.one board 215 with xxxl ks model and need at least a
                    >steady 10
                    >to get going and I weigh 215lb.It starts to get fun in 15 +.There's no
                    >way
                    >it would pull me in 5 or 6knots in the water you think that 15lb.
                    >makes a
                    >differents?
                    >
                    >Later ,
                    >Todd
                    >
                    ><br>> todd snyder <boomji-@...> wrote:
                    ><br>> original article:<a
                    >href="http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552">http://www.egroups.com/group/kitesurf/?start=9552</a>
                    ><br>> > I kitesurf with the quad ks models xl & xxxl
                    ><br>>
                    ><br>>
                    ><br>> How do you like the xxxl? Does it tend to luff a lot? Is it
                    >relatively
                    ><br>> fast for it's size? What wind range do you really have a good
                    >time
                    >in?
                    ><br>> etc....
                    ><br>>
                    ><br>> I'm looking for a 9+ foil for next summer but I really hate big
                    >kites
                    ><br>> with a passion...Hopefully I'll find one that'll change my
                    >opinion
                    >of
                    ><br>> them!
                    ><br>>
                    ><br>> Thanks for your answers,
                    ><br>> Rony
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