[ksurf] Re: Stoked too! and question COM
- We do have a nice red label with WARNING on it. But as manufacturer, we know that the lack actually is in not having kitesurfing school all around the world to show to the peope.We know that few exist but not enough. And some should not give any advice or teach to the peoples because "it's fast food" what they give.I am not pointing anyone here , just repeating what I heard from peoples that had lessons from certains schools.We would like to give lessons here in Quebec but actually it's hard to find peoples that can do the work.It's a very young sport and we are sure that it will be well developped in a near future.Have nice breeze and fly safe.Michel Montminy
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Fax : (418) 545-2288----- Message d'origine -----De : Dave RaueEnvoyé : 31 octobre, 1999 21:04Objet : [ksurf] Re: Stoked too! and question
Quadrifoil X-series and skytigers have similar warnings on the kites. Skytiger has a tag sewn on, in fact. What about Wipika, Naish, Concept Air, etc? ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonio Lage <alage@...> To: <email@example.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 8:53 PM Subject: [ksurf] Re: Stoked too! and question > > Hi, > > Everyone is remembering their bad experiences so here goes mine...it was > the first post I made to this list in January 99. I had just received my > first power kite and the mistakes I made are very similar to the ones Mark > Valentin did. > My oppinion now is that if a product is advertized and sold with out > restrictions, and someone buys this product and makes a mess, the error is > not the buyer, but the sellers > and manufaturers who are afraid to associate a "dangerous" image to their > products. Parachutes and paragliders have patches attached to then where is > written something like "DANGER - DO NOT USE WITHOUT PROPPER INSTRUCTION! > LIFE RISK INVOLVED!" > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > Hi all! I am a beguiner kitesurfer from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and this > last sunday I made my first try at Kitesurfing. The equipament I was using > was an 8.5 Wipika kite and a 6'8" Timpone kite board. I aquired this kit > trough the Internet from Hawaiian Pro Line (they were very helpfull and the > transaction went very smootly - thanks Karen Baxter and Mauricio). Reading > a detailed description of what happened to me may be boring to more > experienced kitesurfers, but I am sure it is interesting reading for the > beguiners that subscribe to this list because I made every single mistake > that someone can possibly make in starting in this sport. > All the information I had about this sport came from the Net, looking at > sites and reading this list. I am 38 years old and my background is from > skydiving, paragliding, surfing and windsurfing, so I figured I had a good > chace to learn by myself. Following instructions from the Net, while I > waited for the delivery of the Wipika I got a small two line delta kite and > started practicing almost every day. I got very competent at it. > > My first mistake was not to follow the more experienced guy. The day my > kit arrived Stefano Rosso (the moderator of this list and a conpetent > kitesurfer) was visiting Rio and had invited me to join him in a television > shooting at a beach in Rio de Janeiro where he could give me some > instructions and point me in the right direction, but since the day started > with a strong morning breaze (8-10 nots) and a building ground swell hiting > all coast of Rio, I decided it was wiser for me to go to a local lake, > where all windsurfers learn. The problem was that the lake is shallow only > at the borders, and is surounded by high casuarina trees. > Then I made my second mistake. I enlisted a group of windsurfing friends > to help me out but didn't breef then enough on how to handle the kite, and > we all got carried away by a "new toy" atmosphere. After some fumbling with > the lines and the kite I was finally ready to inflate the wing standing in > chest deep water, but one of the kite holders let go to soon and the kite > shoot up in the wrong direction (towards the trees). I lost my footing, got > lunched forward and saw my brand new Wipika, in its very first flight, warp > around the top of a 40 foot casuarina tree and start flapping in the 10-15 > not breeze. I was desolated. > I took about 40 minutes to get the kite down (by miracle without any > damage), calm myself, untwist the lines and get ready for a second try. By > now a small crowd of windsurfers and onlookers had assembled and they where > all talking at the same time and giving opinions. The second try went like > this: I managed to inflate te kite and stabilize it at the top of the > flight window. Two friends holding me in the back, and two other friens > holding the board put my feet firmily in the footstraps. I started doing > small s turns with the kite, could stand up and drift forward for about 20 > meters and got lunched forward again. By then I was in deep water and even > with the kite stabilized at the top of the flight window I was drifting > downwind at an alarming speed. I tryed by all means to get the board under > my feet but could not because the drifting created a water flow that made > every move very dificult. Since the lake is not very wide and there was > more high trees downwind of me I decided to pull the quick realese and let > the kite fall to the water. It took me about one hour to swim to shore, > pack everything and walk trough comdominiuns and public streets to get back > to the windsurfing club. I was wasted. > After some rest I decided that plan A was not going very well and started > thinking about plan B. In the middle of the lake there is a sandbar where > the windsurfers had planted a windsock. I have an old course-racing board > (Mistral Equipe). I fashioned a leash and atached it to the back > footstraps. I then paddled the board to the sandbar and strapped it to the > windsock mast. I swam back to shore and started geting the kite ready. My > plan was to get the kite flying, drift sideways to the sandbar where I > could get a foot holding and try to stand up in the course-board using very > little kite power, and try to cross the lake very slowly, allways keeping > the kite at the top of the window, just to get the feeling of it. > Problems started again when launching the kite, as the kite holders again > made a mess and the kite ended again in the trees. This time where much > lower trees, but kind of a mangroove tree (very twisted and sticky). Many > more time puling and tugging to free the whole shit. I have read about how > Wipika kites are fragile and that they burst easily, but this one survived > two tree landings and came out without a single scratch! The crowd had lost > interest and most where just siting on the lake shore only watching and > laghing. Then plan B started working fine. I got the kite flying, drifted > to the sandbar and unstraped the waiting board from the windsock mast. A > this point I got cheers from the crowd on shore. People where starting to > bealive that I was going to make it. > One last problem remained. I had to lower myself and strap the leash to my > ankle. One moment of mental lapse, and I let the kite fly to low and start > draging me again, the kite getting dangerously close to a windsurfing > student that was passing by. To avoid a disaster a let go of the board to > try to control the kite, got draged to deep water again, without the board > and with more cheers from the crowd. I was again with the kite a the top of > the window drifting downwind at a considerable rate. I had no option but to > pull the quick realese and let the kite fall. I swam to shore, friends > retrieved my lost board and I decided to call it a day. The crowd imediatly > dispersed like it was the end of a show. I know I had done everything > wrong, and probably put the lives and property of other people at risk more > than my own. But there is no denying. I had a blast!! > > Best regards, > > Antonio (Tunico) Lage > http://www.tvbox.com.br > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for the hottest sports memorabilia or sporting goods > specials? eBay has thousands of trading cards, sports autographs > and collectibles.You never know what you might find at eBay! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1143 > > > To unsubscribe, send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@... > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your eGroup's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/kitesurf/?m=1 > > >
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----- Message d'origine -----
De : Antonio Lage
À : firstname.lastname@example.org
Envoyé : 31 octobre, 1999 21:20
Objet : [ksurf] Re: Stoked too! and question
At 21:04 31-10-99 -0500, you wrote:
>Quadrifoil X-series and skytigers have similar warnings on the kites.Air,
>Skytiger has a tag sewn on, in fact. What about Wipika, Naish, Concept
>etc?My Wipika has a "copyrigth" message printed on the side...my ConceptAir
just a serial number...
>----- Original Message -----Mark
>From: Antonio Lage <alage@...>
>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 8:53 PM
>Subject: [ksurf] Re: Stoked too! and question
>> Everyone is remembering their bad experiences so here goes mine...it was
>> the first post I made to this list in January 99. I had just received my
>> first power kite and the mistakes I made are very similar to the ones
>> Valentin did.is
>> My oppinion now is that if a product is advertized and sold with out
>> restrictions, and someone buys this product and makes a mess, the error
>> not the buyer, but the sellersTo unsubscribe, send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@...
>> and manufaturers who are afraid to associate a "dangerous" image to their
>> products. Parachutes and paragliders have patches attached to then where
>> written something like "DANGER - DO NOT USE WITHOUT PROPPER INSTRUCTION!
>> LIFE RISK INVOLVED!"
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