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Re: [ksurf] Re: Poll Result: Do you think kites are too expensive?

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  • Henryk Majewski
    I am with you Carlo. Henryk ... From: Carlo To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [ksurf]
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      I am with you Carlo.

      Henryk
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Carlo <carlo@...>
      To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:17 PM
      Subject: RE: [ksurf] Re: Poll Result: Do you think kites are too expensive?


      > Hi Dave and all,
      >
      > I put the poll up on my site to get a different perspective on things. I
      > know from statistics that there is very little COM's visiting my site. I
      > wanted some answers from the people who use kites.
      >
      > I asked a question, and people answered the question. If you don't like
      the
      > result, then you shouldn't be reading this thread, or if you don't like
      the
      > fact that people can't afford kites then maybe you shouldn't be selling
      > kites. I don't think it's the retailers that puts up the high prices, it's
      > manufacturers.
      >
      > You can compare kites with yachts, and tv's and houses and cars. But the
      > fact remains that kites are too expensive. And don't play the old COM card
      > of you should get a better job or earn more money. Anything can be
      > expensive. Even when you can afford it. Most people kitesurfing already
      have
      > good jobs and earn good moeny, otherwise they wouldn't be kitesurfers
      right
      > now. If an item is so expensive, that it is expensive to a portion of the
      > market that has a high level of income, isn't it pretty obvious what is
      > happening?
      >
      > I will still buy kites, because I want to kitesurf. This question was
      posted
      > to state the facts. It wasn't aimed at retailers, but maybe at some people
      > who manufacture kites and read this list.
      >
      > It is posted in a positive note: wake up and smell the coffee. you will
      > never be able to sell enough kites, cause most people can't afford the
      high
      > prices. make them a little bit more affordable and you will be able to
      sell
      > more, and people will buy more. If prices don't go down, the kiting
      industry
      > will not collapse. It will just stay an elitist sport, and even less
      people
      > will kitesurf than there are windsurfing.
      >
      > At the end of the day, the high prices will not affect the current
      consumers
      > as much as it would the people in the kiting industry. It won't affect me
      as
      > much when prices increases, but it would affect you dave, because you will
      > sell even less kites. Less kites = less profit = less money = same
      > overheads; which means companies will start closing down. start seeing the
      > picture? So all these consumers you are ripping off with 'get a better
      job'
      > will still be kiting when you are with your arse in the streets.
      >
      > I hope I didn't cause any sleepless nights to any COM's. hehe. Also Ari,
      it
      > is good to see you get angry.
      >
      > Carlo
      > www.kitesurf.co.za
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: drsurfau [mailto:dave@...]
      > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:24 PM
      > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [ksurf] Re: Poll Result: Do you think kites are too expensive?
      >
      >
      > Really Carlo, you are naive.
      >
      > Why don't you do a poll on whether people on this forum should get paid
      > more in their jobs. Or one for lower taxes for kitesurfers, more
      > kitesurf beach access or capital punishment for those that deliberately
      > abuse kites :-) Pretty predictable results.
      >
      > Yes I'm one of those COM guys you seem to take exception to who
      > doesn't, (strangely enough), make a fortune out of kitesurfing sales. I
      > can tell you where you can make a lot of money though. Try surf
      > clothing especially if you have the right brands, 100% markup; try Real
      > Estate; property round my area has increased 100% in the past couple of
      > years, (I'm glad I had some) but don't try computer sales, approx 10%
      > markup, or kitesurf gear, relatively small market compared to just
      > about anything else.
      >
      > If you feel so strongly about kite pricing Carlo perhaps you should
      > hassle whoever is responsible for your exchange rate compared to the US
      > dollar. Or start your own kite manufacturing business and find out how
      > easy and inexpensive it is to make it big in the kite industry and sell
      > LEI kites for half the normal price;-)
      >
      > But you are wasting your time whinging about pricing and kitesurf
      > retailers in the same breath. I never stated that I believed that kite
      > prices were OK. I live in a country where our dollar is about half that
      > of the US dollar. I could whinge too as I buy a considerable amount of
      > gear for myself. However it's far more productive to just earn some
      > more money, (generally outside the kitesurf industry), by working
      > harder, smarter or taking an extra job, (or creating one) than
      > complaining.
      >
      > Get off it Carlo, global market forces control the the pricing and we
      > few retailers don't control much of that. I try to give the best prices
      > I can for my customers and give free extra service as well.
      >
      > BTW, I think you are located in South Africa, you have a kite
      > manufacturer or two in your country, fly their kites, they are
      > apparently well priced. Or if you want them to make LEI kites get on
      > their case.
      >
      > Have fun, Dave (Dr Surf Australia) COM
      >
      > --- In kitesurf@y..., Carlo <carlo@k...> wrote:
      > > Herewith results for the poll on www.kitesurf.co.za: Do you think kites
      > are
      > > too expensive?
      > >
      > > So far 65 votes has been registered. Seems like the majority (89%)
      thinks
      > > kites are too expensive. Interesting, since the outcome is quite the
      > > opposite to the (mostly COM orientated) response we had on this forum a
      > week
      > > or so earlier...
      > >
      > > Yes (86%)
      > > No, I can afford it (4%)
      > > It doesn't really matter what kites cost, I'll buy it anyway (9%)
      > >
      > > Carlo
      > > carlo@k...
      > > http://www.kitesurf.co.za
      >
      >
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