Re: [ksurf] Remove the Leash
- The person who suggested wearing a board leash in sizable surf has
got to be kidding. I'm sorry but that is close to the worst piece of
adivse I think I have sceen on this group.
A few weeks ago now I had the unfortunate pleasure? of having a
fellow rider ask for me to look at the top of his head and advise him
of how bad the gash in his head was. Lets just say I almost threw
up. He got hit by his board beacause he came off in the surf line
and his kite dragged him downwind toward the beach when he came off -
as kites do. This has put his board right between him and the next
set wave and of course when the wave hit it has thrown the board
right at him. This was in a nasty 6-8ft swell, nasty because it was
heaving up of a shallow sand bank producing a nasty dumping wave.
And then there is the danger of the board leash wrapping around you
if you are in getting tossed around in the breaking wave. I have had
this experience, as i have written here before, I had the leaders of
my kite around my legs and the board leash nicely got wrapped around
my neck. I was this '' close to giving up kiting after that little
episode (obviously glad I didn't!).
Look at these two incidents, imagine being part of them either in the
first person or not. NOW advise me that I should put a leash back on
And before you say what if in the first incident he hadn't had a
leash and the board had hit another water user. For one, the board is
unlikly to do that because it's not likely to end up directly between
someone and a wave the reason it ends up there for a rider is beacuse
the leash effectivly pulls the board into that position.
And very unlikely in those conditions, there was 4 kites out and
about 6 surfers on another break a little way away, I didn't see
another person in the water.
There is no question what so ever that the board leash is a bad idea
in sizable surf.
The only question is, what about the kite leash...
--- In kitesurf@y..., "Kitepower" <kitepower@b...> wrote:
> I was hoping not to start a flame/opinion war, oh well! :-)))
> I wanted to hear from people who actually ride in big surf
> who have found themselves having to compete in large surf, when not
> these conditions.
> The opinions of people who have never faced these conditions is not
> in this thread (please), and these people will be of lower skill
> they should always be wearing leashes and other safety gear which
> I think it is valuable to all of us to hear from these experienced
> wave/wind riders, there are VERY REAL SAFETY issues involved with
> leashes (board or kite) in big surf.
> All the arguments for wearing a leash in these conditions one are
> No other water/wind sports enthusiasts were able to enjoy the
> had at Fingal Bay, and anyway are you guys saying wavesailors
> board leashes too??
> There is some very limited thinking happening around this leash
> it is very important to approach it with an open mind IMO.
> This sport is not about sacrificing your own safety for the
> of others. There is no reason to not ride 15' or bigger waves if
> the necessary skills and gear to do it, and after my experience in
> there is no way I would wear or advise anyone to wear a leash in
> big conditions.
> Some of the imaginary scenarios from the wear leashes no matter
> are either extremely unlikely to ever occur or just simply do not
> my experience.
> Cya and
> Steve McCormack
> Open 7 days
> 126 Beach St, Coogee, Sydney, Australia 2034
> Phone +61293157894
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Myburgh [mailto:andrem@c...]
> Sent: 04 April, 2002 4:45 PM
> To: 'kitesurf@y...'
> Subject: RE: [ksurf] Remove the Leash
> This sounds a bit self centered to me:
> > However, as soon
> > as the surf gets to about 6-8 foot faces and bigger I toss 'em
> > In bigger waves, you don't want to be near your board when
> > you eat it.
> And neither does anybody swimming / surfing close to you.
> > I can
> > then just pop my shackle and the kite washes in, without any
> > hope.
> To whom, the kite or the poor doos who got in the way of it.
> > There's usually someone there to grab it in the shorepound.
> Lucky you. If not, would it not go blowing down the beach taking
> Not trying to be sarcastic here, just thinking we sometimes worry a
> about ourselves and our gear - and make changes or ditch
our 'safety' gear
> to gain freedom and personal safety with disregard to others. Sure,
> ride at an empty beach, that's fine. I would say ditch the board
> flat water (easy to bodydrag back to it, etc.) and keep it on in
surf - if
> you're afraid of being hit/tangled, then maybe you shouldn't be
> leashless kite: I don't know, sounds dangerous to everybody but
> My thoughts, flame away...
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