True ! Re: [ksurf] Fins or no Fins - was hang time!
- You are absolutely right - you can simply not "try" a board(type) !!!
At a time, where I was really experienced on really small
directionals (And I windsurf too, so I just love jibing) - I tried a
I think I was out 3 times - but what a piece of crap !
An odd stance (not relaxed), and it seemed impossible to go upwind -
especially if underpowered. And you could not jump the same way - the
takeoff's were shitty...
Only the transition tricks, jumping tricks, and transitions seemed to
add a new world of possibilities - but everything else did not work.
So I kept on, going on directionals, for a while.
Then, for some reason (especially cause I've seen what SHOULD be
possible on TT's), I had a period where I wanted to experiment/try
some more - and I used the TT for quite a while (and ONLY the TT...)
Suddenly something happened - rapidly everything started to improve
in huge steps !
The jump takeoff's were brilliant, upwind seemed easy in all
conditions, and I could relax totally !
It took a loooong time, till I had the TT mastered, so it was
a "natural" way of kitesurfing.
But once it happened - I never went back !
So many trick advantages in TT's and wakeboards - and today I can
jump better on these, than on a directional. The latter is only
because it has been a long time since I've been practising hard on a
directional, of course.
I miss the fin pressure jibe - it is not the same on bidirectionals.
But I still windsurf when the waves are up, and its really windy - so
I can live without this classic powerjibe on bidirectionals,
especially because it gives you endless other transitions to choose
My point is - that you have to give one type of board a chance, and
not take notice on first impressions !
It is a long evolution/adapting of different skills.
IMO it is not wise to change between dir. and bidirectionals, if you
want to be really top competitive - because the fundamentals are so
But if you just wan't to have fun without competing - use both if you
like that - but remember to use very long practice time on each type
first, without mixing.
Then, when both are "up your backbone" - you can change everytime you
The above is of course a little "blurred", because you can make
tricks/transitions on short directionals with fins in the nose - but
the trim & feel is still very different from true bidirectionals.
Sorry for those of you who has heard this topic before - but it seems
to pop up every other day. People stating that TwinTips can't do
this, and Directionals can't do that...
Do not judge a boardtype, unless you are really good and have a lot
of continuous practice on this particular type !
And most will not have any possible way of comparing - because you
will not have the same level on different types (remembering that you
can not change back and forth, without losing performance)
I think this is why it seems like an endless and very colored "fight"
between dir. and bidir. kiters - which one performs the best !
:-) Peter Frank
--- In kitesurf@y..., "abc123kite" <esku@e...> wrote:
> I think that you are right, but to see what does best for you, you
> need to give the same "water time" on all kinds of boards.
> I start on long dir' and moove right to wakeboard (141PF) without
> or short dir'in the middle, today I love my Wake's but still I am
> having a good time on my old 6'6" Naish or on the AHDTT there is
> many things that you can do better on one that the other will not
> Give a chance to all.
> Yours Eyal
> > Isn't this another way of saying that what you're used to is what
> > going to work for you? I'm big but not particularly strong and I
> > have a windsurfing background but I find my big directional with
> > big fat fins the easiest thing in the world to ride. I can hold
> > edge with the big Vector in just about any winds and I have never
> > found the board size or the number of fins to be a problem. I
> > 10-35 knot winds. I am certainly not disadvantaged in terms of
> > jumping or cruising or edging.
> > Conversely my twintip just leaves me exhausted. I'm still a bit
> > beginner twintip rider but there's no real incentive to get super
> > good on the twintip while I'm having so much fun on the big
> > directional.
> > Greg