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Re: How to avoid getting lofted?

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  • Kitesufferer
    And you wanted a Flysurfer 16.0!!!! Mike, Laurent Ness (www.axelair.com) sells a spreader bar with a snap shackle welded on to it. This should make it easier
    Message 1 of 11 , Sep 30, 2001
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      And you wanted a Flysurfer 16.0!!!!
      Mike,
      Laurent Ness (www.axelair.com) sells a spreader bar with a snap
      shackle welded on to it. This should make it easier to engage (I
      hope). He should have more stock in soon. Otherwise check the Ronstan
      site or the Kitesurf files section to see some solutions.

      Glad you're OK.

      Mike

      --- In kitesurf@y..., mikeiacovides@h... wrote:
      > Just wanted to share my today's experience with the group:
      >
      > I was out in unusually strong winds for my area (25+ knots onshore)
      > using an ARX 7.5 and after having a blast for about 4 hours I was
      > more than happy to call it a day. I was heading back towards my
      entry
      > point when suddenly the wind stopped! Just like that: from 25knots
      > down to 5 in less than a minute! Then followed long lasting gusts
      for
      > the next half an hour (if you can call them that since each lasted
      > for more than 5 mins). The first gust took me by surprise (I was
      not
      > on my board) and I was trying to keep the kite on the side (body
      > dragging superfast!) just like the advice of earlier postings
      > suggested. But when it was over I had to work the kite a bit close
      to
      > neutral in order not to luff... (big mistake) as the next gust
      > dragged me from waist-deep waters all the way to shore. I managed
      to
      > stop the body dragging once 4-5 meters on the beach. At that stage
      I
      > was laying flat on my stomach and hooked in the chicken loop trying
      > like a madman to unhook without success.
      >
      > Don't know how, but I managed to unhook at just the right moment as
      > immediatelly after I started to lift and when a couple of meters
      off
      > the ground I let the bar go. The kite de-powered, I dropped without
      > any major problem and fortunately neither my gear nor me were
      damaged.
      >
      > I'm definitely going to fit one of those snapshakles... anywhere I
      > can see a photo of the whole snapshakle setup in the internet??
      >
      > Mike
      >
      >
      > --- In kitesurf@y..., Mel <kitebord@p...> wrote:
      > > <kitesrfer@a...> FORWARDED this:
      > >
      > > > **** Lesson 1 - always use
      > > > a steel collar or ring to connect the snapshackle to the
      chicken
      > loop.
      > > ****
      > > > Due to the load on the chicken loop, it collapsed and pinched
      > around the
      > > > flared end of the snapshakle.
      > >
      > > That is VERY important. I thought everybody knew it by now (I've
      > posted it
      > > myself several times, as have others). A snap shackle will NOT
      > release
      > > reliably, unless it's "snapped" to a solid loop of sufficiently
      > large bend
      > > radius. For example, the little 800-pound-test brass RF6000s
      I've
      > used will
      > > NOT release from either of the two smallest Wichard plain
      shackles
      > from
      > > westmarine.com (5/32 or 3/16" pin), OR from the corner of a
      > triangle loop or
      > > D-ring (make sure any D-rings can't spin, putting the snap at the
      > corner).
      > > They do release from a plain O-ring, as well as a "bow" shackle
      > (even the
      > > smallest - 5/32" pin) & also directly from the hook of a plain
      > spreader bar,
      > > but OTHER snap shackles may NOT.
      > >
      > > Bottom line: TEST first under load, before using.
      > >
      > > Also: Do NOT rely on this to save you when you get lifted.
      Since
      > the wind
      > > is so gusty where I ride, getting lifted is very common here.
      I've
      > been
      > > lifted about 4 meters in what felt like under one second. I
      think
      > you could
      > > very easily be lifted too high to want to release, by the time
      you
      > realized
      > > you should. A little while after somebody was severely injured
      > here by
      > > being lifted WITH a snap shackle, we learned to always fly the
      kite
      > low.
      > > Sometimes we have to fly through zenith, but we only do it
      > momentarily, &
      > > while in at least thigh-deep water (if you get lifted then, you
      can
      > steer
      > > the kite out over the water, & touch down doing a planing body-
      > drag), or at
      > > least with a couple hundred feet of vacant soft sand downwind.
      > >
      > > Mel
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